Update: With all of these updates, if you would like to view the original post without the need to find it first, please do. That said, please keep in mind the fact that 1) It’s a parody. 2) A parody is intentionally written to mock. 3) There are some decent follow-ups that you may want to take into consideration beyond this (for example, what follows). I believe it would be worth your time to come back to them if/when time allows. 4) Thanks for keeping these three things in mind. :)
So two more things,
1) I’ve followed-up this post with a listing of what I feel to be the better, more creative attempts to mock my mockery. In short, if you are going to spend the time to write a comment that disagrees with the premise behind something I might post, at least do so creatively, or with solid factual reasons to back up your feelings (or both.)
2) To the second point,
Hey M Dave. Enjoyed the post. Not a Zune fan, but appreciate the interface as it looks good. I haven’t spent a lot of time with it nor will I buy one, but at least I’ve got good reasons beyond the nonsense I’ve read in some of the replies above. People, good tech is good tech and the fact that some device isn’t more popular OR the one you chose doesn’t make it crap. My personal reasons for not buying one is:
1. Doesn’t currently support podcasts. I’m a podcaster so this is a feature I want. Chances are this will be fixed in either the firmware or with the next gen.
2. Microsoft’s payment to Universal music. While this shouldn’t be a showstopper as it doesn’t come out of my pocket directly (the price didn’t go up as a result of this), it really ticks me off and is a bad precedent.
3.Doesn’t work with a Mac. And yes I know that the iPod also didn’t work with Windows PCs when it first came out. If I was a Windows user, I wouldn’t have bought an iPod back then either.
Thanks for the update on Erica Sadun. I reviewed her iMovie books on Amazon and at MyMac.com and gave them thumbs up for because of how great they were. Here’s hoping that she’ll do a new one for iLife 07 (whenever the hell Apple decides to release it)
The above comes from a recent follow-up from Guy. These all seem like legitimate concerns to me. Maybe they do to you as well? Not sure, but having this information brought to the top of the post seemed like a good thing to do to ensure you had an ever more solid base of information to make any future purchasing decisions on.
Thanks for the follow-up, Guy! Oh, and regarding Erica: *COMPLETELY* agree! Erica is a one-in-a-billion talent. We geeks are lucky to have her as one of our own. :D
Update: So here’s a fun picture: Four generations of mobile-media devices, and an example of an attempt to breathe new life into my favorite headphones (Bose TriPort’s ROCK!!!)
If not obvious, yes, that’s a big phat crack in the screen of my AV400 > still works! Just can’t watch movies (directly; can still plug it into a TV), and can only see the right hand portion of the artist or track as I’m scrolling through the list, which is obviously a problem. The Rio was it’s replacement, and I picked up the Zen a while back because of its size. The Rio is obviously trashed, though still works like a charm, and the control knob (joy stick?) on the Zen broke off, requiring my fingernail to scroll through the various tracks, artists, and settings.
The point? When I state “I love my Zune!”, I do so from the viewpoint of experience with, and a passion for, mobile-media devices.
NOTE: I gave my iPod to a (niece/nephew) of mine when I purchased my Archos AV400 — No, I won’t say which one as, made obvious by this pic, I’ve got *LOTS* of them (a pic which is missing a sister, a brother, a brother and sister and law, and six nieces and nephews) and the rest would hate me if they knew which one I gave it to (or even if they knew that I gave it to one of them, and they weren’t the one. I hope none of them read this post! ;-)) so suffice it to say, my iPod (though it was in good shape before gifting it to the aforementioned niece/nephew) was “unavailable” for the five generation photo.
Update: So with full expectations to visit Digg and find this post with a negative Digg rating, I was both happy and surprised to see,

Which goes to show that there are some people who actually read the word “parody“, and did so with an understanding of what the word “parody” is defined as,
par·o·dy (păr’ə-dē) pronunciation
n., pl. -dies.1.
1. A literary or artistic work that imitates the characteristic style of an author or a work for comic effect or ridicule. See synonyms at caricature.
2. The genre of literature comprising such works.
2. Something so bad as to be equivalent to intentional mockery; a travesty: The trial was a parody of justice.
(ed. Emphasis added)
In a follow-up comment, afruff23 asks,
Was this blog a joke?
Yep. *Parodies* usually are.
To each of you who Dugg this… Thanks for both the Digg as well as showcasing the fact that you actually read the post, and understood it for what it was… A Parody, A Mockery…
A Joke!
As always, thanks for *reading*… ;-)
Quick-Note: I think it also goes to show that the Zune has a lot stronger footing in the mind of the consumer than most folks are willing to give credit. Why do I love my Zune? Because it’s really, *REALLY*, nice. As many of you point out in an attempt to poke fun (and in some cases, do so quite successfully, e.g. Jeremy’s comment below), there are simply not enough people on this planet who own a Zune *yet* to truly put the sharing feature to the test. So for now, my love affair has everything to do with the fact that after owning and experiencing a multitude of mobile media devices, including an iPod, Zen, (insert: forgot about my Archos AV400, which *was* my all time favorite before purchasing my ->) and Rio (ce2100 series: which was my all time favorite before receiving and experiencing my Zune), Zune has proven to bring reason for praise. With or without the wireless sharing feature, it really is that nice of a device.
Update: It just occured to me that while I have a good portion of the blogosphere’s attention at the moment, and in the spirit of “sharing the love”, my colleague, Erica Sadun, someone in whom most certainly can not be mistaken as a ‘MSFT FanBoy’ (partly because she’s a girl, but even more so because she’s a MacAttacker through-and-through), has a ShortCut title as well as several articles on the Zune, both pro and con, that I believe many of you might take interest in. Here’s a quick-list with a few of the mentioned titles/articles, of which you can find more by visiting her bio.
What’s The Big Deal About Making Music Players Social? Microsoft Zune and the Big Idea
Five Zune Secrets You Need to Know
and the mentioned ShortCut title,
Eight Great Ways to Get the Most from Your Zune
You can subscribe to Erica’s *Mac*DevCenter blog to get even more of the good stuff she has to flow your direction on any given day, something in which I would encourage you to do, as Erica most definitely knows hers stuff!
Update: The *LOVE* just keeps on flowing > 92 love letters (and counting!) to be exact. To each and every one of you,
You guys are the best! *MUCH* love thrown right back at ya.
While it would be tough to choose just one of you as my favorite, I particularly like KenLenny’s comment,
I wasn’t convinced that this was very entertaining, but then I read some of the comments and now I’m actually giggling. The frothy-mouthed apple zealots, foaming at the slight of their champion, it’s just too good. Thanks for the masterful troll.
And I think Mr. Apples has summed it up best,
The iPod fans showed up in force to offer a plethora of half-truths to discredit the Zune. The Zune is obviously having an effect in the market or this blog wouldn’t have turned into a flame-war.
Around the holiday season, I did some crazy research on purchasing my 3rd MP3 player. I was pretty dead set against the Zune, but it came out ahead for features I wanted and it has not disappointed. Sure, its first generation, so it’s not perfect, but it is a great start, and the minor ‘holes’ are nothing that a firmware update couldn’t cure.
Many people have selective memory and don’t recall the iPod had a good many flaws post-launch.
Keep the love flowing people! MMMMmmmwwwaaa :{}
[Original Post]
Continuing in my new found love affair with my Zune, I present to you a parody of “Hi, I’m a Mac”, “and I’m a PC” to hopefully help bring greater understanding as to why I feel MSFT has most definitely hit on something big.
Update: For a greater understanding of the “Scroll Click…” comments, please see “Week 1 : The Zune Experience“, posted to my dev.aol.com blog earlier this morning.
And so, without further adieu, I present,
“Hi, I’m an iPod”, “and I’m a Zune”
Enjoy!
[Commercial.Begin()]
iPod: Hey Zune, Check out this new track I just purchased on the iTunes Music Store
iPod: [Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click…] Here it is… err wait, no… sorry, that was something else… One sec [Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click…] Here… no… one sec…. [Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click… Scroll… Click…]
Zune: Ummm.. Dude, seriously, what are you doing?
iPod: I’m looking for this cool new track I just purchased on iTunes. Oh, here it is! Here, take my left earphone and check it out.
Zune: Ummm… That’s awfully sweet of you, iPod, but thanks, I have my own.
iPod: Your own what?
Zune: Earphones.
iPod: Well right, but I bet you’ve never heard this new track I just purchased on iTunes.
Zune: What’s it called?
iPod: “Say it right” by ..
Zune: Nelly Furtado? Yeah, I have that right here
Zune: [Click. Scan. Click. Scroll. Click.Play]
Zune: It’s a great track, huh?! Here, check out some of her’err, wait… You don’t have any built in wireless sharing capabilities, do you?
iPod: Did I hear you say “sharing”? Uhh… That’s illegal, Zune! You can’t sha-
Zune: It’s not illegal. In fact, it’s encouraged… You know, that whole “social viral sharing -> marketing” thing and all.
iPod: Well, you can still borrow one of my ear phones if you’d li..
Zune: iPod! I said “viral sharing” not “sharing whatever viruses you just so happen to have looming around those ear pads of yours”
[Girl Zune walks by]
iPod: Well, hello there :D Heard the new Nelly Furtado track? Here, borrow an ear-
[Girl Zune’s Screen Beeps]: “Boy Zune would like to share “Nelly Furtado: Say it right”: Accept?
Girl Zune: Ohhh… I haven’t heard that yet. Of course!
[Girl Zune smiles at Boy Zune from across the room and walks towards him with curious, batting eye lids]
Girl Zune: So, what other sorts of ’surprises’ do you have on that [giggle] ‘device’ of yours? [giggle]
[Boy Zune smiles]
Boy Zune: Well, with my Zune Pass, the sky’s the limit! Whatcha gotten’ mind?
[Girl Zune smiles back, giggles again, and then…]
iPod: But I’ve got viruses, err, I mean an earphone you can borrow!
[Girl Zune doesn’t even hear iPod, and as I was saying… continues to listen to more tracks offered up by Boy Zune, while offering up a few licks-err, I mean, tracks of her own]
[iPod slowly sobs]
iPod: It’s those damn viru- ‘errr-ral’ marketers fault! They’re the ones to blame!
[iPod, with a slight increase in cheer]
iPod: Well, at least I still have my 30 second free clips. … as long as … I’m … connected to my PC’err, .. Mac’err, ..
iPod: Ohhh…. What the hell am I, anyway!
[iPod, falling ever so swiftly towards the downward spiral, begins an identity crisis, while Boy Zune and Girl Zune continue to share in their new found moment]
[Commercial.End(”or is it just the beginning? ;-)”)]


Chance of a Girl with iPod walking by: 50%
Chance of a Girl Zune walking by: 0.2%
I thought I was subscribed to xml.com - what is this crap? Note the use of the past tense in the first sentence.
Ahhh... touché (and I believe that, in fact, this is correct usage of the term ;-))
Thanks for the laugh, Jeremy! :D
@Dean,
Even we XML.commers enjoy to laugh now again. You should try it sometime. It's *fun*.
Bye.
It's not illegal. In fact, it's encouraged... You know, that whole "social viral sharing -> marketing" thing and all.
Unless you buy music from the Microsoft store, then sharing is verboten. Now if you steal music, you can share it in a slightly less stealing fashion!
@cooper,
>> Unless you buy music from the Microsoft store, then sharing is verboten.
Ummm... Unless I am completely off track, isn't the "flurry of concern" (see: http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/003535.shtml ) in reference to the Zune 3days/3plays being applied to non-MSFT purchased, non-DRM'd content? As far as I am aware, I can share any content I have on my device.
Someboday care to clarify?
@Dean,
One other thing: If you read through the first portion of the post, you will notice a link to another blog entry in which I explain further the connection with the "Scroll... Click...", which goes into greater detail as to how this relates to linear and circular lists, and their relation to usability. Of course, lists represent data, and XML is a way of representing both linear and heirarchial lists of data.
In short, if you're going to take offense to a post, maybe you should be sure to read the post to ensure that your complaint, in fact, is relavent.
Of course, it's not your responsibility to click through all of the links to find the relavency, but none-the-less, if we are bound and gagged to speak of only those things that have direct and obvious relavency in regards to XML and *only XML*, we would have run out of things to talk about here on *XML*.com around the year 2000.
@M. David
I'm just giving you a hard time about the percentages. I'm very happy that there will hopefully be competition in the space. I think it will spur new innovation all around.
@Jeremy,
>> I'm just giving you a hard time about the percentages.
Oh, it was taken all in fun, for sure. In all honestly, I tried to come up with a snappy come-back in return, and I couldn't think of anything that was even close to yours, so [M:D > 'HatTip' > Jeremy] ;)
>> I'm very happy that there will hopefully be competition in the space.
Completely agree! Apple certainly isn't going to sit still, and there are certainly some features of the iPod series (e.g. let's face it, the new nano is pretty sweet!) that MSFT has yet to even come close to.
But as you point out,
>> I think it will spur new innovation all around.
Yup! As I think most anyone will agree, competition brings on innovation, so this is all good, without a doubt!
Thanks for the follow-up!
I'm surprised digital cameras have yet to adopt the "social viral" approach - every family get together we have is accompanied by a flurry of "I'll email you the photos" - wouldn't it be easier to "share" a picture as you are taking it? Maybe this feature already exists, and my camera is just out of date, tho ;)
@piers,
Where ya been???!!!
Well, none-the-less, it's good to have ya back! :D
>> I'm surprised digital cameras have yet to adopt the "social viral" approach - every family get together we have is accompanied by a flurry of "I'll email you the photos" - > wouldn't it be easier to "share" a picture as you are taking it?
YES!!!
>> Maybe this feature already exists, and my camera is just out of date, tho ;)
I don't know of any that do, but you're point is spot on! I need to do some research, but I do know that the Zune provides the ability to plug directly into your TV, and since *most* cameras support USB -- which is how you plug your Zune into your PC, though I doubt much that's an enlightening statement to anyone ;) -- then I would think that there would be someway to go from camera to Zune and then from Zune2Zune.
Any of you Zune hackers (something in which I am striving to be -- someday ;) out there happen to know how to get something like this to work?
Absolutely brilliant! I think there is a sweet spot inherent in "viral" technology, where it is neither too monolithic (iPod hasn't needed to innovate much beyond the spin control), or spread too thin (cameras don't share because there are 4-5 major manufacturers, so a large audience is harder to find)... whereas two is a magic number as far as healthy competition goes. Nikon couldn't push the technology because most people own sony's or canon's they got for free with their last oil-change or whatever.
Too bad you can't daisy chain USBs on handheld devices, so you could construct the ultimate phone-audio-photographic-pda-etc-etc experience, like LEGO ;)
Why would I want to minimize my battery life for wireless I can't use to download podcasts, or even share music for most labels?
I don't want a brown player. I'm not interested in DRM crap that prevents me from using a UMS driver to sync my player with RoboCopy. My 1Gb, 40-hours-on-a-AA-battery iRiver iFP-799 works just fine, thanks.
Zune. Meh.
@piers,
>> whereas two is a magic number as far as healthy competition goes. Nikon couldn't push the technology because most people own sony's or canon's they got for free with their last oil-change or whatever. > Too bad you can't daisy chain USBs on handheld devices, so you could construct the ultimate phone-audio-photographic-pda-etc-etc experience, like LEGO ;)
@Brianary,
>> Why would I want to minimize my battery life for wireless I can't use to download podcasts,
Not sure... Obviously that would be a decision for you to make.
> or even share music for most labels?
Not sure I understand what you mean? Are you refering to the Zune store's selection of titles?
>> I don't want a brown player.
Okay. How about Black or White? (I've even heard rumors that someone petitioned for a Pink Zune and was awarded one due to his approach, though I have very few details much past this.)
>> I'm not interested in DRM crap that prevents me from using a UMS driver to sync my player with RoboCopy.
I happen to agree with you on this point, without a doubt.
>> My 1Gb, 40-hours-on-a-AA-battery iRiver iFP-799 works just fine, thanks.
iRiver's are nice. I can't say I blame you. I have a 1GB Zen that I like quite a bit, though it doesn't get *anywhere* near that kind of batter life, and it doesn't take AA's, which I must admit, can be somewhat of a downside when you run out of juice and want to get up and going quicker than recharge allows.
Thanks for the taking the time to comment, Brianary!
Hi, I'm Mrs. Zune, I would like to talk with somebody other than Mr. Zune and Mr. Vista. I feel trapped in this relationship. I don't really feel compatible with anyone else. Mr. Ipod just seems to get younger and hipper at every turn while Mr. Zune seems more like a good reliable door stop.
What is the Microsoft Fanboyism? Sick! How much is Monkey Boy Balmer paying you to pretend the Zune is usable?
Forget Zune I rather get IRiver
Hey guy, you are possibly one of the worst writers ever, what happened, childrens books of Nazi death camps focusing on puppy killing division aint making it, u gotta ruin what respect for the zune i already have? o well, i mean, u can use it as a weapon when someone charges at u though right, u can seriously hurt someone with that thing.
Girl Zune? Your whole skit falls apart because this character doesn't technically exist (nobody has a Zune because it sucks). Also, this "sharing" is bull when you consider the limitations involved.
you have an AOL blog...
you should probably not write commercials.
Because everyone has a Zune, that makes wifi real usefull. And if you just bought the song, then it should be easy to find in your 'recently added' playlist. Even if it wern't, it should be easy to find, that 'Scroll... Click...(x20)' ya, I bet the Zune UI makes finding songs a snap. Oh and sharing music while isolated to each others own devices is way more romantic and intimate that if you shared the same headphones. (Havent you seen those Trojan commericals?)
I would much rather a nice slender nano walk up to me than a shall we say "big boned" Zune. I am sorry, the whole Zune experiment just reminds me of what would happen if nerds actually made a girl.
The iPod taps into a completely different realm of consumerism that Microsoft will NEVER be able to access. DRM, squirting, etc is transcended by the connection that people feel to their iPods. I for one wouldn't trade a first generation iPod for a new Zune.
Plus one thing that I don't understand about non clickwheel devices... if you have 5000 songs, the number of times you have to push the buttons to get to the stuff you want goes up exponentially. The whole reason the click wheel is there is because sliding your thumb over the wheel is much more natural and easy to reach one's desired track.
I am not saying that the iPod will remain on top of the heap forever, I am just saying that the Zune provides not even a glimmer of competition.
Mrs. Zune who are you calling a doorstop? I'm gonna beat the shit out of you! Click. Scan. Click. Scroll. Click. Click.
What does the Zune say when there are no other Zunes around to share? Something tells me it'll be saying it quite a bit, because nobody HAS a Zune, because as Ben so eloquently puts it, the Zune sucks.
Not just because it physically, functionally sucks (big time), but also because it has no image, no identity.... I've never even SEEN a Zune, let alone ANY sort of marketing that would suggest it's the sort of thing I might want to buy.
To paraphrase Steve Jobs, Microsoft has absolutely no taste and repeatedly makes third-rate products.
Oh, and if you share songs over your Zune to be "intimate" with someone, then something is seriously wrong :-D Seriously, tell any girl within a hundred miles that you "want to share some music between our Zunes", she'll run for the hills or just laugh at you. And she'd be justified in doing so.
iPod is style. Zune is clumsy, frantic oneupmanship, merely Microsoft's jealousy that a competitor has completely dominated a market and they haven't. The Zune will flop, guaranteed.
You are such a retard. You must be the only person who likes the Zune. How much did microsoft pay you to write this? Microsoft hit it so big that no one is even buying the damn thing. Enjoy your shit brown piece of shit.
That kinda implies that it's hard to find music on an iPod in the beginning. Actually, the ease of the clickwheel is why I prefer it over the competition.
Hmm... kind of left out the part where it takes five minutes to share the music with a new person. That is, if you can find someone with a Zune. I've heard they exist, but I haven't actually seen on. Funny though! Enjoyed it, but had to lash out in typical mac fanboy fashion. Would the Zune be played by a morbidly obese guy (Balmer?) who falls asleep at the end of the commercial?
My Ipod has over 5000 songs in over 300 albums and I can find any song in less than 5-6 seconds. I'm not sure where you're going with all that interface crap. It just sounds like you were reaching for material when really all you have is a slightly bigger screen and a 99.9% useless wireless sharing option.
The only argument you could come up with is to support M$FT's lame song sharing feature that almost no one is going to use anyway? Pathetic.
@M. David
It looks like you're pretty happy with the Zune. In the end, that's all that matters, right?
From reading the article, it does look like you're not aware that you are prohibited from sharing certain songs (see link below). Even worse, there's no way to identify what songs are sharable and which aren't. It's for someone else to come up with a comedy skit based on that.
One can only wonder what Microsoft, and music executives were thinking when they ruined the music sharing feature. I would've thought the Recording Industry would've done anything possible to get out from under Apple's thumb. Being able to share an unlimited amount, of legally purchased music, for an unlimited amount of time would've killed. Instead, everything gets locked down, and if you're lucky you have three days or three plays.
Oops, forgot the link:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/19/universal-and-sony-prohibit-zune-sharing-for-certain-artists/
You have no life, grow up.
This is perhaps the lamest parody ever.
3 days later the song disappears off the girl zune and she gets mad and goes over to the ipods house to play tetris on him all night long.
Tool
that was lame dude. I hate that fanboy shit
Man, that sucked. The Zune sucks, and they will always suck.
Aah, dumb! Can't share all the tracks you buy, and you don't know til after you buy it. So much for that 'killer' feature!
FUCK YOU record companies. The cassette was copyable, transferabble without protection and you didnt go broke. you make more money than ever before, and still you are afraid of the digital age. You old fucks, grow up and join the real world. Stop pissing off your customers and you just might get this right.
dude thanks for making me laugh!really though i thought you were serious back there....zune is better than the iPod?thats some funny stuff!and who owns a zune? you're the only person i guess!oh and that girl zune from your imagination....hahaha=D
i'm pretty sure it would go more like this:
ipod: Hi Zune!
boy zune: Hi iPod!
girl zune: (walking up to boy zune) Fuck... we're ugly...
This is awful. Too bad the sharing thing would be cool if Zune was popular, but it's just a wasted technology because no one has them. Zune store is rubbish compared to iTunes too *cringe*
Better screen, OK interface...but they haven't hit on anything big.
this is stupid
Oh dear god that was terrible. You made baby Jesus cry.
aaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha this gayest thing ive ever read.
welcome to the 10 minute commercial... WTF was that? All it needed was the nerd laugh at the end with the subtitles "not based on actual events; the nerd will never get laid"
The Zune runs afoul of the license for every single Creative Commons licensed track it "shares" by crippling the file with DRM, and yet it is agnostic to copyrighted photos, interesting.
I find your repeated references to viruses ironic considering Apple's and MS's respective track records for viruses on their platforms.
booo, zune sucks and you know it.
...yes, this totally explains why the Zune has been selling less than the ipod's car charger acessory, good story, truly a work of fine journalism. Microsoft's whole share thing if anything just promotes DRM even more since you're only given that stupid three day listen period. This is exactly why there is a surge in the use of illegal downloading....
Oh, and btw, I don't own a zune, but the easy way to just bypass that stupid DRM crap is to just tell the thing the song is in jpg format, and then share it as a picture... convert back, and done.
Thank you, I will now never visit oreillynet.com again, you might want to consider a career change.
omg. that was lame and embarrassing to read.
I love how everyone is telling that guy to stop being such a fanboi yet you all are just as bad trying to protect the iPod. Zune's are a great innovation, and so are the iPods. I, personally, dislike the iPod. I'd rather get something that isn't white. White is a dirty color.
funny, you didn't mention that many files from the Zune marketplace can't be "squirted" because they come extra crippled by DRM.
I should mention that I don't buy DRMed music of any sort. Why pay extra for lower quality, less useful files. DRM doesn't curb piracy, it just gets in the way of legal users.
this article is lame.
It's hardly viral marketing if the person you shared it with can't share it with anybody else, and they can't on a Zune.
This squirting this is a cool idea executed with no elegance and then crippled courtesy the RIAA.
Hmm.. iPod bashing from an O'Reilly peon? Whoda thunk it. I guess antagonism and the name O'Reily run hand in hand, on TV and the web.
You forgot to mention that the Zune has limited sharing, and beyond that sharing is completely controlled by labels, some of whom are already forbidding it. I've listened to a Killers track 147 times. If a friend has it (and happens to have a Zune, which nobody I know has), I'm SOL if I want to listen to it without buying, regardless of platform.
Yeah, you aren't convincing me the Zune is superior. Zune is iPod 1.5, except with worse specs.
Hmm.. iPod bashing from an O'Reilly peon? Whoda thunk it. I guess antagonism and the name O'Reily run hand in hand, on TV and the web.
You forgot to mention that the Zune has limited sharing, and beyond that sharing is completely controlled by labels, some of whom are already forbidding it. I've listened to a Killers track 147 times. If a friend has it (and happens to have a Zune, which nobody I know has), I'm SOL if I want to listen to it without buying, regardless of platform.
Yeah, you aren't convincing me the Zune is superior. Zune is iPod 1.5, except with worse specs.
this is fucking retarded
I feel like I lost a few brain cells from reading this crap. You just convinced me to buy an ipod. thanks
That was aweful, the Zune is a horrible version of the iPod and it can never be compared.
Zune...tsk tsk. What a horrible device. As thick as a novel and as worthless as a year old PC.
The zune will never take off. What a worthless piece of garbage. Oh wow sharing that will stop working after 3 plays. Come on you cant even sync over the Wi-Fi or use it for anything else useful. Good luck finding another person with a Zune to share your music with. I rest my case in the following link.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/01/03
lame.
Fuck that. im wicked fast with my ipod.
And guess what? if you actually KNOW how to navigate a ipod menu (which anyone over 7 can do) Its click(music), click(artists), SCROLLLLLLL (which takes 5 seconds, down to the N's, Click (on nelly furtado), Click (all albums),Click (song)
6 steps. Not the 40-something you said. Tool.
And guess what? the constant clicking you have to do on the zune interface is pretty lame too. you just cant beat the circular scroll interface that comes on the ipod. its one of the most intuitive ever devised.
And furthermore, you idiot... if ANYONE is making a fuss about sharing, its microsoft, who is so much taking it in the butt from the riaa that they would do something universally stupid, like not put the customers first.
What i really see here is microsoft fanboys having delusions of gradure about what really is a terrible product, and trying to rationalize their foolish buy.
Want to use Windows Media Player to upload a song to the zune? Nope, cant do that. Zune isnt even PlaysForSure(tm) (a project CREATED by microsoft)
Want to listen to that song more then 2 times in 48 hours? Nope, cant do that. Thats NOT viral marketing.
Want to buy a song directly from Microsofts Music store? Nope, microsoft engineers never thought of that, even though it has a wifi chip inside.
Want to wirelessly sync between your computer and your zune? Nope... cant do that... even though the thing has the hardware for it..
Want to find someone to share music with? Nope, almost cant do that... because anyone who has any common sense at all sees how much of a TERRIBLE product this is.
The difference between apple and microsoft is apple says "Hmm, what ways can we improve our product to make its use easier and cooler? How about if you can use it _____ way? Ok, design the hardware and software to make this possible."
however, microsoft is like this: "What buzzword gadgets can we put in the zune to make it more sellable to the public? Ooh, how about wifi? thats a hot seller now! Well the wifi has to do something... Ok, well have it...share songs i guess.... no, not unlimited, just for 2 days or something... no, of course the non-DRM'd songs dont get unlimited play time if you share them, the RIAA wouldent like that... but our customers WOULD like that? Screw Them! since when did we ever care about our customers? hahaha."
you are lame.
This writing is worse than George Lucas.
get free wii points at amazon from http://sternclips.blogspot.com/2007/02/free-wii-points-via-amazon.html
I feel dumber just for having read that
dude, who have you actually had the chance to play out this fantasy of yours. zune girl.. dream on dude. Nelly Furtado??? you don't have any taste anyway.
ok. I think the flaws in your Zune love are pointed out by others. I won't go there. its not relevant. instead I'm going to tell you the real story. Mr. Zune, Mr. iPod, Dr. M and the MAFIAA. This is the story that matters. when Mr. iPod was conceived his parents were free. one might call them border line hippies. Mr. iPod was brought up able to share and share a like. He was naive of the ways of the world and the evil DR. M who worked for the Mafiaa. As he grew older his parents realized that to make it in the world he would need some help and the only way to make it in the town controlled by the Mafiaa was to work with DR. M to broker a deal. they fought hard and Mr. iPod lost some of his commie sharing sensibility, and for that we cry, but the deal signed in blood that opened the doors and set the precedent for the Mafiaa to deal with outsiders was remarkable. Mr. Zune was conceived latter, his parents were good old friends of the Mafiaa and DR. M was there from its birth. the Mafiaa were concerned with the freedoms they had granted to Mr.iPod and wanted to use Mr. Zune to set things straight. never should they have set a low fixed price for each and every track. never should they have allowed purchased songs to be burned to CD... and they definitely should have gotten a cut off the top.
If Mr. Zune can grow strong and challenge Mr. iPod to a duel and win, the Mafiaa will be able to bargain from a position of strength to allow Mr. iPod to live.
OK, that was terrible. anything with 'mr. Zune and mr. iPod' will be: here's my rant without that b.s.
hint: it is a RANT.
'Viral sharing' is a joke. we all know it. wifi is there in hardware but crippled in software... this is poor.... virally Dr. M'ing non-drmed tracks that you load onto it including those who's license prevents this...(iPod does NOT do this, it just hides the files... hint: 'show invisible/hidden files and folders'...)
If you think this has anything to do with the physical iPod or the physical Zune, you are an idiot. this is about DRM and your fair rights on content you bought and paid for. the Zune is DRM through and through 'viral sharing or no' the iPod represents a company publicly against DRM but forced to play by those rules pushing back. (yes both players let you import non-drmed content, but Microsoft's DRM's it as it imports... Apple's product does not...) This is the threat that Zune represents and we do and should care. Zune was crafted by the RIAA in co-operation with MS in order to beat up and provide a bargaining chip against Apple. Apple is not god, they are not always good, they scare me, but in this they are representing the least-evil position and we should be wary. Windows V.1 sucked. hell, windows 95 sucked 98 was worse... but what microsoft got right was its BUSINESS relationship... and that's what this is about MS+RIAA vs. iPod
right now the RIAA needs the iPod more than the iPod needs the RIAA... microsoft's goal is to upset that dynamic, and if they succeed. we all loose.
girl zune, boy zune etc. be damned. this is about your rights. fight for them.
You're stupido bitch
hahaha... that was awesome!
you are a fucking retard, go kill yourself in a fire.
only mentally handicapped people and fanboys love the zune.
I'll "share" my Snickers Bar with you.
If you haven't digested it in three bites OR three minutes (whichever comes first), I'll force it all back out of your system.
It's a cool feature I call SRM (Snack Rights Management).
thats the fucking lamest thing I have ever wasted my life on reading.
Those "Im a Mac and Im a PC" commercials suck! I mean they're childish... Why would we make more horseshit?!
Consider the source:
[Bio of Creepy Author who views music players through "how-to-pick-up-girls" colored glasses]
Quote:
His professional career began in 1996 as a contractor for the Microsoft corporation
[SCRAAAAATCHHHHH goes the scratching record sound effect, for those of you who remember LPs... Microsoft contractor? Oh my god. Wait, there's more...]
...and has since continued as a contractor/consultant developing customized solutions for a variety of platforms and devices. During his career, he has spoken at many major industry development conferences, including Microsoft's TechEd, on multiple continents.
Born in California and raised in a suburb of Seattle, WA
Yes, that does explain a lot.
Few things are more lame than an MS fanboy. Apple fanboys? Their passion is justified.
I can't say i've ever felt the urge to share music like that, and i've had a mp3 player for several years..
Like anyone wants to read your M$ tardboy crap.
retarded story.
Hi. You suck at life.
Just because you're bitter at Apple for having a marketing campaign that's both original and effective doesn't mean you need to try to mimic it with this filth. What little credibility you still had at the end of this tirade of a commercial (which was not very much, considering you ignore all of the Zune's myriad of problems and resort to making up blatant lies about the iPod, ie "click-wheel problems") flew out the window when I read one of the above comments revealing your almost decade-long history with Microsoft. Any fanboy can spout nonsense like this; try doing some real journalism and approaching things from an impartial viewpoint.
Jerk.
Don't quit your day job :)
I wasn't convinced that this was very entertaining, but then I read some of the comments and now I'm actually giggling. The frothy-mouthed apple zealots, foaming at the slight of their champion, it's just too good. Thanks for the masterful troll.
I don't have an iPod or Zune. With that wireless connection can you "squirt" the track to my laptop? No? Why not? Oh, the wireless is nothing more then marketing hype to purchase other Zunes and not be really functional. Okay. I purchased a Zune finally. Now I can use the wireless to share music! I went to a concert on Friday night. Great band. I put some of their music on my Zune. I listened to it a few times and shared the music with a few folks at the event. It's Tues and I'm back at work. Say I'd like to share this new music with my co-worker who has a Zune let me 'squirt' you some tracks. Oh I can't. Why not? oh yeah the DRM has crippled wireless and makes it nothing more then marketing hype and not really functional.
I just wasted 2 minutes of my life
When have two zunes ever been in the same room together!
The iPod fans showed up in force to offer a plethora of half-truths to discredit the Zune. The Zune is obviously having an effect in the market or this blog wouldn't have turned into a flame-war.
Around the holiday season, I did some crazy research on purchasing my 3rd MP3 player. I was pretty dead set against the Zune, but it came out ahead for features I wanted and it has not disappointed. Sure, its first generation, so it's not perfect, but it is a great start, and the minor 'holes' are nothing that a firmware update couldn't cure.
Many people have selective memory and don't recall the iPod had a good many flaws post-launch.
@sarvinc,
>> From reading the article, it does look like you're not aware that you are prohibited from sharing certain songs (see link below). Even worse, there's no way to identify what songs are sharable and which aren't. > It's for someone else to come up with a comedy skit based on that.
what is a Zune?
Would be much funnier if the Zune talked in jive. Currently, not funny at all. Exceptionally nerdish and lame.
@pek,
>> Would be much funnier if the Zune talked in jive.
You're right... That would have been *HILARIOUS*! Of course, since most folks reading a tech blog are,
>> Exceptionally nerdish
I wonder if maybe I should have focused more on my *target audience*?
Well, none-the-less, I'll take your advice into consideration.
@fredjohnsen,
Assuming that,
>> what is a Zune?
is an actual question as opposed to sarcasm,
See: http://zune.net/ for more detail.
Wow! Finally someone that knows what they're talking about! Zune kicks iPods butt!
@Spencer,
Wow! Someone who actually speaks kind words! ;-)
Thanks for the smile :D
I love this parody! It captures Apple's cool and suave crassness perfectly.
iPod is such a rip-off for people who want to download huge numbers of songs onto their MP3 player, so we use Rhapsody ($15/month for unlimited downloads).
But then I decided to try out a MacBook for my daughter, and guess what: with Parallels and even with BootCamp installed on it we can't get it connect properly with her iRiver player. USB problems, apparently. So, on the MacBook, she can't use Rhapsody and iRiver.
Our only solution appears to be to go ALL APPLE, get the iPod and spend 6 times as much money to download all the songs we want to have. Hey, what a great solution!
Gee, don't I remember Apple being highly critical of Microsoft in the past for coordinated engineering of diverse systems in a manner that's explicitly designed to help their own company monopolize certain technology sectors?
@Kevin,
>> I love this parody!
Thanks! :D
>> It captures Apple's cool and suave crassness perfectly.
*FINALLY*, someone who understands it for it what it was! Well, actually quite a few folks understood it for what it was (though you are the first to point out the attempt to capture the Zune taking on the role of "Mac"), though while I was completely (and to be honest, purposely attempting to lure the die hard iPod fans in) expecting the negative comments, I was surprised by the fact that so many people misunderstood what a parody is all about. I guess I shouldn't have been?
Yeah, probably... ;-)
>> iPod is such a rip-off for people who want to download huge numbers of songs onto their MP3 player, so we use Rhapsody ($15/month for unlimited downloads).
Rhapsody is without a doubt my most favorite overall subscription service. I subscribe to pretty much all of them: Rhapsody, Napster, Yahoo!, and now Zune such that I can stay in sync as to which service is, in fact, the best for each various category (of course, you are aware of some of the stuff I am working on in the background, so it would make sense to you as to why), and Rhapsody is by far and beyond the best of the four, followed by Napster, Zune, and then Yahoo! Music (the service itself is okay, but their media player has got to be the worlds worst resource hog I have *EVER* experienced, and as such, the overall experience is pretty awful > to the point where I will download the various tracks of interest, shutdown the player, and then use Windows Media Player to sync with my device.
Something else you might find interesting: Bill Gates feels your pain,
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/12/14/bill_gates_dont_buy_.html
Bill Gates: Don't buy DRM music, rip CDs instead
Bill Gates gave a weird interview about DRM to a group of bloggers yesterday, admitting that putting anti-copying technology into media makes it worse. He concluded by advising everyone to just skip the DRM on music by buying CDs and ripping them (presumably as opposed to buying your music from the new Microsoft Zune music store, which sells thoroughly crippled tunes).
Gates said that no one is satisfied with the current state of DRM, which "causes too much pain for legitmate buyers" while trying to distinguish between legal and illegal uses. He says no one has done it right, yet. There are "huge problems" with DRM, he says, and "we need more flexible models, such as the ability to "buy an artist out for life" (not sure what he means). He also criticized DRM schemes that try to install intelligence in each copy so that it is device specific.
His short term advice: "People should just buy a cd and rip it. You are legal then." Link (Thanks to everyone who suggested this link!)
>> But then I decided to try out a MacBook for my daughter, and guess what: with Parallels and even with BootCamp installed on it we can't get it connect properly with her iRiver player. USB problems, apparently. So, on the MacBook, she can't use Rhapsody and iRiver.
Uggg!!! That sucks! 'Twas considering a MacBook Pro for my next laptop, using Parallels to run Vista side-by-side. Looks like I may need to rethink this!
>> Our only solution appears to be to go ALL APPLE, get the iPod and spend 6 times as much money to download all the songs we want to have. Hey, what a great solution!
Yep! The funny thing to me is that people don't seem to be able to see things in the proper light in this regard. I have a nephew who was wavering between buying a Zune and an iPod last week, and after weighing the pro's and con's and deciding that the Zune was by far and beyond the better player, his ultimate deterrent was that he had purchased well over 1000 tracks from iTunes, and as such, he couldn't play them on the Zune. Of course, he could have burned all of the tracks to CD's, and then ripped them into DRM free MP3 or WMA files, but the cost in both time, effort, and the cost of the CD's themselves (though, these days that's obviously not much of a factor that plays into this) forced him to go with the iPod against what he truly wanted.
Of course, there are those who will argue that he would be in the same situation with Zune, but much like your point regarding Rhapsody, with the Zune Pass subscription, he could just as easily downloaded all of the tracks he had in his collection that were also available in the Zune marketplace, and as such, reduced the need to burn and rip the tracks from iTunes into this collection, converting the rest at a much more reasonable pace as time went forward. Of course, this didn't occur to him until after he had purchased the player > I was visiting my sister the other day and mentioned it to him when I asked about which player he chose to purchase. To say the least, he wasn't very happy ;-)
>> Gee, don't I remember Apple being highly critical of Microsoft in the past for coordinated engineering of diverse systems in a manner that's explicitly designed to help their own company monopolize certain technology sectors?
It's amazing what Apple tries to pull off, isn't it?! ;-)
See: http://www.oreillynet.com/windows/blog/2006/10/applesupport_ipod_inoculation.html for an interesting take on this "phenomenon" ;-)
Thanks for the follow-up, Kevin!
Oops! Thanks for reminding me. If we get my daughter an iPod to replace her iRiver (since she can't use Rhapsody on her MacBook) we'll have to pay Apple to buy the 1500 songs she currently has on her iRiver.
So, our startup cost for switching to iPod exceeds the cost of buying a new Windows notebook that could be used solely for Rhapsody downloads and refreshes. Strange economics. You'd think more people would have noticed this by now...
@Kevin,
>> Strange economics.
Among other things! ;-)
>> You'd think more people would have noticed this by now...
That would, of course, follow the natural line of logical thinking, though I believe I am coming to the hard realization that "logic" and "thinking" are but strangers to one another in this phun-philled world of ours ;-)
Hey M Dave. Enjoyed the post. Not a Zune fan, but appreciate the interface as it looks good. I haven't spent a lot of time with it nor will I buy one, but at least I've got good reasons beyond the nonsense I've read in some of the replies above. People, good tech is good tech and the fact that some device isn't more popular OR the one you chose doesn't make it crap. My personal reasons for not buying one is:
1. Doesn't currently support podcasts. I'm a podcaster so this is a feature I want. Chances are this will be fixed in either the firmware or with the next gen.
2. Microsoft's payment to Universal music. While this shouldn't be a showstopper as it doesn't come out of my pocket directly (the price didn't go up as a result of this), it really ticks me off and is a bad precedent.
3.Doesn't work with a Mac. And yes I know that the iPod also didn't work with Windows PCs when it first came out. If I was a Windows user, I wouldn't have bought an iPod back then either.
Thanks for the update on Erica Sadun. I reviewed her iMovie books on Amazon and at MyMac.com and gave them thumbs up for because of how great they were. Here's hoping that she'll do a new one for iLife 07 (whenever the hell Apple decides to release it)
@Guy,
Thanks for this! Please see my update at the top of the post. :)
Hey regardless what ever you are you need some mpeg4 development software. Checkout Snapkast.com for really cool software.
So, this Zune Boy needs the aid of wifi to hit on the girls?
hello from google...
I think we're all forgetting something here... what could it be... maybe PRICE? Last time I checked, an ipod with comparable features cost about 100 bucks more than a zune. I know that's the reason I told the best buy guy to give me the zune instead of one of the 3 ipods next to it. Somehow I think money has a bigger impact on people's decision-making than anything else.