HighWLAN: A Driving Wireless Network
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Launching the HighWLAN
After stopping for the night at a cabin in central Ohio, we were ready for the final day of driving and a shot at wireless networking. Schwern and dha drove Meng's Volkswagen Passat with Schwern's laptop thrown in the back seat, running talkd. dha was the co-pilot for the Passat and assumed all communication roles for their car. Meng rode with me in my Hyundai Tiburon acting as communications officer and uplink controller.
After quite a bit of man handling, we managed to get everyone on the
network. We had all sorts of odd, novice-like issues. First, we were
using a Netgear Access Point that Meng had in his car. This didn't
work out too well. Next, Schwern's laptop didn't have the proper
essid set and we managed to get that working at a gas stop. Once
those issues were resolved we had our laptops on the network and all
was good. pings were returning and ssh connections were
succeeding. Meng and dha connected using talk on Schwern's laptop and
we spent a good 100 miles just finding things to talk about. That's
what happens when you work hard to build something that's minimally
useful.
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After rambling on about movies, making fun of each other's driving and deciding where to stop for dinner we decided to connect our network to the Internet. After all, we needed to send out proof that this was working. Once my cell phone reached a state of moderately reliable service, Meng brought up the link. We logged on to IRC and bragged about our connectivity. We sent email stating our coordinates. We acted like little children on sugar highs.
Just then Meng got an emergency call from work and his services were needed online. Our network was needed, what a wonderful feeling. We were online for a solid hour, surely being passed from cell tower to cell tower. The link stayed up just fine. Of course, we eventually drove out of cell range all together and lost that link. The network continued to be useful, we used it to communicate needed stops for gas or bathroom breaks. It's a good thing too, what with Schwern's "expressive" driving.
Testing the Network
After hours of driving, we decided it was a good idea to see what conditions caused the network to fail. It had been working like a charm for most of the trip and as any tester will tell you, it's more important to know when it breaks, not when it succeeds. We decided to try a distance test first. Using the 200 foot markers on the side of the highway we gave ourselves an estimated 500 feet of distance and the connection was just as strong as ever. Then we slowly added distance and at an estimated 800 feet the connection broke down. We were very happy with that number, especially because it didn't represent Line Of Sight (LOS). The testing laptop had to acquire a signal through several cars in traffic.
Still later in the day we decided to stream MP3's from one car to another. I had an adapter that converted the tape deck to an audio-in jack that was connected to my laptop. Schwern's laptop was in the Passat and was capable of streaming mp3's using Apache::MP3. The streaming worked but the playback didn't because my XMMS was throwing a temper tantrum. All was not lost, however, we resorted to remotely controlling Schwern's laptop to play random songs in the Passat and there was nothing they could do about it.
There was one major problem that destroyed our network. If a large truck drove directly between us is creates the same effect as a careless backhoe discovering your fiber network. Those of you familiar with most of I-70 know that the geographical layout is just flat. Sure, there are a few hills but mostly it's just flat and bare. Because of this, when large, dense metal objects decided to drive between us there was nothing for our antenna's signal to bounce off of to reach the other car. Again, all was not lost. Thanks to the wonders of the TCP/IP protocol our connections were not harmed in any way, just lagged a little.
What Good Is It?
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There are several answers to this question. The simplest answer is that it's just another incarnation of two way radios, cell phones, or GPS systems. Like two way radios the local network is free. That makes all the difference in the world. Like cell phones and GPS systems, it can be connected to other useful networks and resources.
When I explained this project to Adam Turoff he made a bold prediction. He believes we'll see the US military using wireless networks in the same manner. I giggle at the thought of secure transmission happening over ssh to a server in an unmanned plane but it could happen. I just want to be the first to know if they use IRC or talkd for their communication.
I'd like to see a few companies begin offering wireless kits for cars. With knowledge in the right areas, it would not be difficult to create a hands-free client with voice recognition and even cell phone hook-ups. I could do the software now with great Open Source speech programs such as Sphinx II for voice recognition and Festival for text to speech output. Tie them together with POE and my favorite programming language, Perl, and you there you go.
Last, I can't stress enough the importance of free, (mostly) unobstructed communication. The cell phone costs would have been very high. More troublesome than that is the service area on the open road. Our network was up 99%, the cell phone companies didn't do that well. As for the getting online with the cell phone, I'm just glad I had a credit built up because that was expensive.
Conclusions
I managed to create a lot of hype around this project. Some called me lame, some called me cool, but they all called me geek. All I know is that my friends and I made the most out of an otherwise boring all-day drive. Wireless networking has thousands of undiscovered applications with no end in sight. Do your part to uncover the useful bits.
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Most Intresting
2004-03-19 18:06:48 |kegger| [View]
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Wifi in car
2004-08-08 14:27:11 sharad_74 [View]
Very good stuff. I have a more mundane project I need to complete. To setup a video and audio, streaming server in the trunk of my car that transmits through Wifi to my iPAQ sitting in the cabin. :)
Why? Because I can
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Useful in a rally-driving environment
2003-09-01 02:24:01 simonmackay [View]
This setup could be a valid concept for traditional and targa rallies, "bush-bashes" and similar driving events. Competitors in some of these events often have a support vehicle which transports spare parts and is driven by support staff. Also, representatives from sponsor organizations may travel in one or more separate vehicles in order to report back on the progress of the rally.
This could involve the use of laptop computers which are wirelessly-linked in each vehicle. They would work off the 12 volt power in the vehicle and could be able to work as a webcam server and / or work with GPS in order to provide up-to-date location information and road vision to the support vehicle and / or sponsors. If the computer is hooked up to a telemetry kit which is attached to the vehicle, this could mean that the support vehicle could be alerted to problems before they get worse.
WIth regards,
Simon Mackay
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WLAN in a moving environment
2003-06-18 08:20:32 anonymous2 [View]
Hi Guys, thanks for the great article. That's something I'm going to test soon. I am now in a project to test the performance of 802.11a and 802.11b WLAN when the client is moving in high speed, like in a car driving at 100MPH, while the APs are installed in fixed locations. In your fun day, had you tried to see any variations in the network throughput when one of the cars was moving away quickly from the other?
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WLAN in a moving environment
2003-06-26 06:57:36 anonymous2 [View]
I'm working on something similar, with a coverage footprint of around 800 square miles. To get soft handoffs, you need about 50% overlap between the APs, so in my case, I need about 1200 AP sites. The vendors are getting into management solutions that can handle these volumes as one big virtual LAN or multiple VLANs - with one-button firmware updates, etc.
So far, we loose connectivity with 26 dBm cards talking to 36dBm sector antennas at about 25 mph.
Even when stationary, however, we're not getting tremendous throughput because of all the security and signalling overhead - maybe 100kbps.
Next step is to try mobile repeater networks like Mesh Networks and Blue Socket - we've been seeing decent throughput at 40 mph in high-density urban environments. 60 mph is about the limit with these. So we are planning a cellular packet data secondary backbone using CDMA or GSM.
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highWLAN * X
2003-03-03 23:06:22 anonymous2 [View]
Great article! Lots of fun- I have also been working on a similar project. Concept: enhancing on the old "turn your 386 into a router" by turning old laptops into mobile AP's. The only problem is old laptop batteries are too expensive, so the laptops are bound to automobile cigarette lighters and stray outlets. Your article inspired me to go further with this idea and purchase some high end antennas!
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I've always wanted to do this
2002-12-06 14:05:10 anonymous2 [View]
When I drive around I dream 24-7 about a day when every vehicle is equipped with an 802.11b AP and we are all interconnected. Cars would share location info to avoid collisions and we could communicate and share contact info with fellow commuters. Not to mention have seamless free internet access through several other cars to the nearest Starbucks or something.
blooy@scopetech.biz
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Video/Voice Converencing Streaming
2002-11-01 06:57:49 anonymous2 [View]
I have done someting similar to this, based in the UK, I have set up my laptop with a wireless card, GPS, and WebCam. Then I created a Ad Hoc network to my friends laptop in his car with a similar setup.
We were able to have full duplex voice conversations for the whole journey, using Microsoft Netmeeting (difficult to find in XP). With My web cam we were able to do video conferencing as well, but that was distracting.
Gear used 2 Laptops running XP, 2x Orinoco Gold cards running @ 128Bit WEP set up as an ad Hoc netowork, Logitech QuickCam Pro3000 WebCam.
Range was good upto about 10 car lengths using built in antennae. I tried my home built cantenna (~10db gain) and that greatly imroved the range possible.
We didnt have Internet access as my phone dosent do data (Will get a Bluetooth GPRS phone soon)
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mobile wireless network
2002-10-14 17:59:48 anonymous2 [View]
I found this interesting since I am working on a wireless internet network for me and my 2 friends that all own RV's. we want to be able to surf the web from the RV and also share files & communicate with one another while in the RV park.
Thanks for the article
3mtravel club
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Good Article!
2002-09-27 23:57:21 anonymous2 [View]
Great article guys! Although it must have been hard to live with all the cables intricately wired through your car! I mean didn't you have trouble getting out?
Anyway, I had one interesting idea that might be cool. If all cars had wireless technology and could talk to one another. You might be able to chat with other people in a traffic jam or possibly even communicating with emergency services to get assistance!
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wireless mobile grid?
2002-09-12 10:33:30 anonymous2 [View]
Nice project, you guys - I think this stuff could go a long way...
How about giving cars each a fast wireless node that can be configured as a auto-discovery mesh network, and then allowing the nodes to combine their computing power into a dynamic mobile grid?
Perhaps such a system would have enough local number-crunching power to do collision-avoidance, traffic management, etc, as well as bouncing a network connection along lengthy stretches of highway with no external infrastructure.
Now that would be pretty cool :)
--Michael Okun, AKA Anonymous Coward
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What about a chain-linked HighWLAN?
2002-09-04 14:52:34 mjstrong [View]
I don't know much about WLAN's, but would it be feasable to have, say, 10 cars set up like this, each separated by a nominal distance, such that the end cars could communicate with each other? If so, imagine the implications, if all cars were set up with these capabilities!
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RE: safety and legal issues
2002-08-29 06:03:35 coolcheeze [View]
Kinda funny that some ham operators think that everything that doesnt pertain to them is illegal. To determine whether or not the system was illegal you would have to figure effective radiated power after the antenna and I believe that the erp (dont quote me) can be 100 mw in point to multipoint situation. The V2 of that access point is now 100mw anyway. The car itself acts as a attenuator as well.....I just think its funny that some ham's have to be this way about something that is for the most part completely harmless.....even with another service running on the same channel as the mobile network it would be in range for less than 10 seconds if the car was driving 60 MPH. I really dont think that that would be an issue. Anyway enough of that stuff .....cool stuff guyz.
KB8EQN (oh yeah im a ham operator too and i think what you did was good stuff....im a bit of a wlan junkie myself)
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RE: safety and legal issues
2003-11-04 11:40:53 anonymous2 [View]
Must have been OLD Lids you were talking about because this HAM thinks WLAN is the coolest stuff around. I do like having the freedom to Run 10 watts though with another HAM.
And on a joking side, I think the best collision avoidence system you can have is to remove all electronic stuff OUT of the car. All you need is a speedometer, break, gas and the wheel.
KE4KBO
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safty and legal issues...
2002-08-10 23:11:56 n7okl [View]
sounds like fun BUT....
1. typing/loking at a computer screen while driving is extremely un-safe and illegal in many areas.
2. the wireless lan stuff is located in a ham band. boosting the power, connecting external antennas, or any other modifications to the equipment is illegal and causes interferance problems to the primary users.
If you are still reading...hams are now starting to use the wireless lan stuff to maintain computer network conections for public service agencies in emergency situations. attempting to send stuff over existing ham data systems is very s l o w and presents 'content' issues. wireless lan gets around some of the problems.
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the gov has been doing this for years actually
2002-08-05 07:31:23 eashton [View]
BBN developed backpack sized GPS/network enabled units for war applications five years ago. It's always kinda creepy to notice a couple of generals walking around your cube. The 'field tests' out on the 10 Moulton parking lot were pretty fun to watch as well.
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I say geeks rule! (this time)
2002-08-04 21:45:45 mechman [View]
woh, how cewl was that..no seriously I put together little projects such as that all the time (for example my mobile handsfree linked in with mp3s on laptop, car stereo, and mp3 player) but thats the sweetest one I've heard. My dream car project is laptop gps with map overlay realtime feedback (and online of course), voice activated with my mp3 collection and mobile kit and surround sound....all it takes is money.
Respect
Dave R.
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VoIP
2002-08-04 06:13:13 austux [View]
Wouldn't it be nice to have VoIP so that those driving could be directly involved with the conversation?
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Correction on Kyocera Phone
2002-08-03 15:30:37 Casey West | [View]
I was contacted by an engineer at Kyocera Wireless who tells me my phone will work with Linux. Having heard this, it confirms my belief that I don't know everything and solidifies my faith in mankind.
Here is what Steve writes:
I take some pride in making sure our phones perform true PPP
as expected by Linux and other operating systems. :)
The phone should appear just like a normal modem, and respond to AT
commands. For wireless packet data, simply dial the magic number:
ATDT#777
This enables PPP packet detection. From there, it should reply to the
usual PAP/CHAP negotiation for your login and password. (It's up to
your carrier what you use there, same as in Windows.)
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Correction on Kyocera Phone
2003-07-21 19:19:04 anonymous2 [View]
I have posted the information I gathered to get my Kyocera 2135 working in Red Hat 8.0 including my ppp dialer script and various AT commands to get the phone in the propper modes.
http://www.shuman.org/help/verizon_kyocera_linux.html
Philip
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The Dashboard Linux Project (dashpc)
2002-08-03 11:39:43 bergeron76 [View]
My project at http://www.dashpc.com does exactly this and then some. It's an open source project on SourceForge and we're always in need of developers. If anyone wants to join a worthwhile project in it's infancy, please have a look.
-CB
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Vinge thought of it already
2002-08-03 11:20:32 Paul Robichaux |
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Vinge already conceptualized broad-based, high-node-count WLANs for military use. See e.g. "Fast Times at Fairmont High". The military already uses pervasive digital data links (e.g. the Naval Tactical Common Data Link, or the new IR-laser link systems in the F-22 fighter.) Too bad they probably won't be using TCP/IP; it would be super cool to pick up their gear on the surplus market! -
Vinge thought of it already
2006-04-16 07:41:52 swordfirh [View]
i just wonder who can advise me how to use linusx redhot?
i ccant donwload the paches?









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