I can't believe the interface looks that outdated. Brushed steel is only still in Safari, I think. The lack of webcam support is now a running joke, and amounts to punishment for using the msn client and network. Great review, though.

I don't get the speech option when u do a rightclick in the area where u type, what's the use of that?! It's pointless

Yeah, I have to agree the ability to speak the text you typed in an IM window which you are writing is beyond useless. I didn't even notice that option.

I just got a new apple laptop and thought it was the best because it has a BUILT IN camera so how the hell doesn't a stupid IM have a webcam isn't microsoft meant to be amazing! The thing that gets me is the only way to use this camera is taking pictures of myself...... I could have done that on a normal camera and a normal computer! right now Msn seems amazing!

I completely agree about the webcam, though it does work on skype, so if you feel the need dl it and keep a skype window up while you're on messenger

THIS IS NOW BECOMING A JOKE! MICROSOFT SORT IT OUT! JUST BECUASE WE USE MACS DOESNT MEAN YOU HAVE TO PUNISH US! JUST GIVE US WEBCAM SUPPORT! AND MAKE YOUR COMPANY LOOK GOOD FOR ONCE.

OH BTW, HOPE VISTA IS A DISASTER! I HATE MICROSOFT! :@:@:@

so you cant use webcam? =[

Word.

It sucks realy and it make think about the early models of windows messenger..

Do you know anny alternativs who do have webcam and voice and might consider the fakt that this is the 21 century.

Thanks

I spent 20 minutes trying to figure out the friggin webcam, only because i would have never thought anyone would exclude it from an IM client. I'm just trying to figure out why.

having no webcam sucks!! you should put it on!! microsoft messenger really sucks right now..i can't even let my crush see me when im talking to him!! IT SUCKS!! GET WEBCAM SUPPORT!!

Hey, I'm really bad at this whole technical thing so I guess we can't use webcam's on this piece of sh*t msn, is there any other on that we can use? Does anyone else know anything about the newer version hopefully coming out? Can I use msn for like a pc or whatever on my mac just to get the webcam thing? I suppose we'll have to grin and bear it. I kinda like the company, they were really nice when my iPod died and they sent me another really fast, brand new but this is really really f*cking stupid. Anyways if anyone hears anything it'd be nice to know... What's the point of my parents buying this nice webcam for me if I can't even f*cking use it?

U can use an IM client called Mercury, it really sucks though, i didn't like it at all, for instance you can't see ur webcam and the other persons at the same time and the quality isnt really as hight as is on msn on a pc, also it kinda implys that it suports display pics, but it doesnt seem to allow u to change ur display pic, overall it doesn't work how i would want it to :( i hate microsoft :@

i agree with evryone ITS PISSED ME OFF TOO I BOUGHT THE COMPUTER SO I COULD GO ON WEBCAM ON MSN-I DONT CARE ABOUT ICHAT ITS A LOAD OF SHIT!!!!!!

yea its pissing me off you cant use a webcam on the mac thats just fucked up microsoft needs to step its shit up

It looks like a "BIG FAVOR" from Bill Gates to the important target of MAC USERS (so we have the rests of the privileges of WIN USERS)

F***ing bullshit...... Pay all this money and no webcam....F***OFF

Yahoo is the only IM that supports webcam. But try getting your friends to download it lol!

for mac i meant to say!

Its Really Crappy That We Cant Use Mac Messenger Usin Webcam, Even Though I Downloaded Bootcamp It Still Relly Sux CAUSE I CANT USE THE INTERNET IN MY WINDOWS FILE FUCK!!!!!

I am thoroughly disappointed that MSN for Mac doesn't allow webcam and voice. I mean what messenger service does not allow these basic features nowadays? apparently Microsoft MSN for Mac!!!!!
This complete B.S.

skype and imac ok. it works with others on pc and we can see each other

but messenger is type only garbage and i use it to send files but skype is faster and does it all
and free too.

frikcin retarded,.yo,,no webcam?..rugh

ughh. I really like the new messenger for mac it's really convenient, but it doesn'T work at all on my new imac. It works perfectly on this ibookG4 I have, but on this computer? nope. I'm still investigating what might be the problem, I was told safari interferes with microsoft messenger, but on the ohtre computer, it's amazing!

iChat does allow you to IM with all the IM programs - you only need to sign onto a jabber server and add your contacts from whatever IM program they are using.

And yes it does support your iSight cam at a decent rate of 15fps - which is still better than any pc tp pc msn web cam'n junk.

Try reading something beyond the fustration of these folks and learn something.
In a perfect world Micro$oft would make MSN as simple as it is on a PC for a Mac but honestly the Apple devision of MS isn't that focused on the fforts needed --- specially when iChat and Jabber is 10X better than anything they can make.

wouldnt it just be great if Apple realised how many people use MSN and would like the Isight camera to work?? or on the other hand make Ichat compatible with MSN, Aim ect. Users

wats the point in having a built in camera if you cant use to for webcam? its ridiculous!

i thought that having an IN BUILT CAMERA that youd be able to webcam! wats the fricking point of having it if u cant webcam ppl! microsof is getting shitter by the minute, i mean loadsa ppl use msn, so y cant they just make it compatible wiv apple? reidiculous

and nw my bloody "on" button is stuck to one side and i cant get it bk to normal!!!!!!!!

Why doesn't the webcam work for msn ...whats the point in having a buit in one if you can't use it! i think you should make windows msn work on macs ...its so much better!

when i got this bloody mac paying loads of money i thought you cud use the camera as a webcam!!!
so stupid that you cant!!!

you know, all of you pissed off people can do yourselves a favor and do one of two things.. download a jabber client and go that route or take advantage of the fact that you can run a windows os (if you go through the process of making that available to yourself) and when you actually want to us your cam function use the windows os since when in windows the isight camera works for msn. i know it sucks that microsoft and mac can't just co-exist the way we all want right now, but at least there are actual options out there to get around the whole situation.

How do i use webcam for this macmessenger

HOW DO U FREAKIN USE THE WEBCAM

NEED THE WEBCAM!!!

guys, seriously, just got this amazing mac that's the highlight of my whole livin room and have to use my work laptop to get onto msn with webcam for video calls with family?! NEED THE WEBCAM!!!

windows sucks what can you say? they dont give a crap about mac software and prob never will. this was just a suckle on the MS nipple to shut up SOME of the complaints. After downloading MS 6.0, i realized that the whole thing is a joke as Todd said. What a waste of space on my HD! CRAP crap CRAP

just proves that MS is still actively trying to use the lack of webcam support on the mac end as another reason why running a PC is better than Mac.

The only reason I run MSN Msgr is because I have friends who use it, and its frame rate on webcam is 3x more than yahoo, but both suck compared to iChat.

I think apple should use the opposite approach- make iChat universal for all platforms, show em how good computing can be, not purposely shut out users based on OS like MSN.

amsn is an app that lets you use a webcam on MSN messenger for the mac.

It pretty much sucks compared to ichat or yahoo, but it lets you use a webcam SOMETIMES.

Again, I think its MS that identifies a mac user with a webcam and makes life difficult for us so the people on the PC you may be chatting with can look at us having troubles connecting and point fingers saying what a lame computer a mac is.

It's bullshit propaganda.
Fuck Microsoft.

you need to make an msn for mac that you can have your web cam on

You'll be very happy to know that there is a solution!!!! It's a programme for macs, I've just downloaded in on my imac and it works fine. It's fairly basic clone of MSN but it works, you just sign it as you do on MSN and it shows your contacts etc.
Enjoy!!!
www.mercury.to

Here's another one. http://cmq.qc.ca/4w/amsn/

It's also for mac.

how do you sign out of microsoft messenger?

HOW COME WEBCAM DOESNT WORK ON MAC MSN.GIVE ME WEB CAM ITS NOT FAIR THAT PCS GET IT BUT WE DONT. SORT IT OUT

Yo Guys... i've used macbook pro since last year.. en while browsin round, i stumbled a program called AMSN (alvaro's MSN).. en guess what, it has a friggin webcam support.. u should try that... the interface sucks tho...

Just nought a macbook andi believe the new msn for mac shld have webcam support so people who also own a mac can talk with there family and also have the ability to see them.

microsoft or microshit....??? can't decide what to say... so shitty to c live messenger for mac not supporting "voice, webcam, file transfers to yahoo users..." this is pathetic really ... assbrains!!!!

How com this msn dowsnt have webcam?

Pleeeaaassseeee add webcam support...Pleeeaaaaassseee!!!!

well wat ay lOad Of bull shiit ....rele thowt yOO could use the cam :@

how can you interface the amsn to a mac to run the webcam? Can anyone help me!!!

I cant understand why apple comuters dont get to use webcam!!!!!!!
Totally unfair and it wouldnt take that much effort to upgrade the messenger!
Come on microsoft!!!!

i totally agree
i dont understand why webcams arent used
it pisses me off really
macs are trying to be the new best computers
but they have so many things missing that are what make people want it.

i have an exchange student from france and i want to be able to on webcam to her!! my mum brought this computer specially so i could!! now i find out it doesnt even work and we feel really let down!!! this is such stupid service!! i wouldnt have thought the webcam wouldnt work on msn because my laptop has BUILT IN CAMERA!! why is it dere if u cnt even use it!! please sort it out because apart from that i am really enjoying this laptop!! xx thank you xx

you should all just go with the ichat and to heck with the MS giant.

Why the hell can you not use your built - in isight camera on mac messenger? is it just me or can you really not use it?

its not bad at all
but whenever i close a conversation my msn signs outtt
SOMEEONEE HELLPPPP

its not bad at all
but whenever i close a conversation my msn signs outtt
SOMEEONEE HELLPPPP

I think its out of order aswell. MSN sort it out, everybody would be much happier if you just included webcam and audio conversation for mac you BASTARDS!

im currently using apples new macbook with built in isight, to then find, i was quite annoyed that i couldn't use my isight webcam.

i only use msn messenger.
i agree, this should be a beta. very beta.

wtf y doesnt it let you veiw or use your own webcams :@

When Will Microsoft add the webcam support to the Messenger? I just can't believe they haven't do anything about it. No wonder so many people are running away from Windows , including myself.

i cant believe msn dont support a webcam on the mac, do they not realise that mac's r the way forword for the kids now, they are installing more in schools than ever before, mac will be the future, wake up msn.

how do u get ur built in web cam to work on messanger

try mercury messenger guys

webcaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam and audiooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

The mac version sucks you can't do webcam and it slows my computer down alot. i would use ichat but i don't think you can speak to people with hotmail, yahoo etc e-mail addresses and if you could you would have to copy all of your contacts by hand! does anyone know if you have to pay Apple for using Mail? MICROSOFT, GET IT FIXED!!

hey everyone, i forgot to tell you there is a program called aMSN which isn't bad webcam works on there, even with your isight one. hope this helps.

msn doesnt even care about macs youc ant do any of the cool stuff on only for PC :(

You guys are right that pissed me of too, because i bought the new iMac with the built in iSight, but I cant use it in MSN. a new version should be coming out sooon

is anybody else having problems with display pics?

How we cannot use camera on this freak msn???

so you are unable to talk with webcam? like even iSight? Cuz that blows...i want to be able to see the people i talk to! do you know of a program like msn messenger that is compatible with a mac and that i can keep my email address?

I HATE MICROSOFT THERY FUCKIN BASTARDS!

I don't ever try using MSN messenger, as you can see (read) there are too many limitations for mac users.
AIM is a good alternative but I actually prefer Skype for voice and video chat. Many Americans aren't familiar with skype but it's really popular in the rest of the world. You should definitely try it out and give up on MSN. (www.skype.com)

you might wanna add you your "cons": can't sign in at all.

it seems that messenger:mac didn't make this program perfect after all .. what a bummer. problems with signing in have been happening to a lot of people (mac 6.0.3)

msn on mac without webcam is just gay. who likes msn with less quality? please make a newer version of msn for mac where u can use webcam =)

this post was really useful thank you. i was getting nuts trying to find a version with the webcam option but apparently it doesn't exist. that sucks!
thanks

messanger without cam is not messanger....these guys can't do their job well...how hard could be an msn messanger for mac with camera support??? is it sooo diferent than the windows....all for the money..they dont give a fu%^$^%$ about customers...! and guys i cant understadn why do u like adium so much...it doesn't have cam either!!

Hi guys i found a way to by pass the MSN ISSUE here is the link hope it works for you guys http://www.amsn-project.net/download.php it looks and feel like MSN :)

This Msn Messenger ..I Didn't Like It ..I'd Prefere An Msn Thats Like The Normal Msn And Where You Are Able To Use Your iSight Like A Normal Computer..Cos What's the Point Having An iSight When You Can't Use It !!!..
Thanks For Taking Your Time To Read This..
xxx

how can open a video conservation on my amsn?

how can open a video conservation on my amsn?

hi, i was wondering how i can use my isight camera in MSN? people told me you can't, but some say u can. please let me inform if you can?