What Is Web 2.0
Subject:   So what's wrong with this picture
Date:   2009-02-13 23:53:21
From:   Nahima
I've heard web 2.0 brandied about in our offices by our entreprise architecht for three months now - he can't explainw hat it emans but he is firm in his belief we should be moving the organisation to Web 2.0 <-- problem number one...people who espouse terms they don't understand or that are meaningless.

Your article gives some good examples of Web 2.0 good practice - tagging for relevance, voting,democracy, make it free, make it where do I tag this article? other than some articles, what are you really giving away? this could just as easily be a marketing ploy to sell your books on web 2.0 - they certainly are not free...

Where is democracy in the context of the O'Reilly website?

Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of O'Reilly books - have been for the last 15 years - but I do feel web 2.0 is very much still a buzzword and people need to remain mindful of this...after all, as yous ay it was initially simply the name of your next conference...

Nonetheless I am not completly ungrateful for a good read - thanks

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  • So what's wrong with this picture
    2009-07-17 12:35:23  MBybee [View]

    I totally see your point, but I think more importantly the question is less "Why isn't O'reilly Web 2.0", and more "Is Web 2.0 over yet".

    Many of the examples cited in this article from 2005 are now just spam or corporate controlled BS.
    "Search Engine Optimization" - Spam
    "Napster" - Corporate controlled DRM
    "Blogging" - Supposedly over 90% of the blogs are abandoned, most of the rest are corporate sponsored now
    "Participation" - I'm not sure what this even means, but things like Lulu are just a slight retooling of a very old vanity publishing industry. There has been an increase in independent music publishing, at least.
    "Syndication" - I assume this is stuff like Twitter? Which has no user retention, as something like 90% of people use it for a month or less?

    My point is just that while I think that the AJAX/JS heavy web app styles and the Service Oriented stuff has certainly gained some traction, the user created content and democracy aspects are pretty much dead. This and Social Media seem to be winding down as movements, while some of the ideas behind them have moved on to bigger and better things.

    At what point will we declare the end of Web 2.0 and the beginning of Web 3.0?