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  Charming Pythonistas
Subject:   Dumbing it down for the ladies
Date:   2007-09-12 08:43:06
From:   dieselkat
As a female principal software engineer, I find this article offensive and derisive towards women. The overall message here is "let's dumb things down for the ladies", which only serves to re-inforce the stereotype that females are less technically competent than males. Hmm... sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me!
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  • Dumbing it down for the ladies
    2007-09-13 09:40:11  jpk01 [View]

    DieselKat,

    We have to ask, though, what's the final goal - to educate students or to inflate ego?

    A while back, after having been in the s/w industry for 5 years, I took a Data Structures class just for kicks. The class was based on C++. I did fairly well because I'd had many years of C++ experience, but many of the students were struggling with (and dropped out of the class due to) basic C++ syntax. Granted, this should have been mastered in previous classes, but I don't think one semester is adequate to do so.

    The same prof is currently teaching the course using Python. I may have to drop him a line to see how he's doing...
  • Dumbing it down for the ladies
    2007-09-13 07:41:26  Anna Martelli Ravenscroft | O'Reilly Author [View]

    Unfortunately, factors such as low self-efficacy, loner stereotypes, and the belief in CS as both difficult and not widely useful, are well-documented barriers to women entering IT. I've made some suggestions on how to address those factors. I'm sorry that you consider addressing them as "dumbing it down for the ladies".