10 Reasons We Need Java 3.0
Subject:   Agreed...just don't change the name
Date:   2002-08-06 07:14:08
From:   problem1
I recall reading interviews with Mr. Gosling where he expressed relief that Microsoft didn't do anything really imaginitive with their Java clone. It's great to be relieved about that, but I hope Sun won't miss the opportunity to fix Java even if it has to be at the cost of breaking compatability. This article points out many good ideas to that end.

I want to urge that we remember that even a new and improved Java that is not backwards compatible with previous Javas does not have to be called something else just because it can't compile older code. The last thing the U.S. software developer needs is a new buzzword that's not on their resume and which opens the door further for cheap foreign labor.

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  • U.S ?!? Where did that come from?
    2002-08-07 03:27:04  dspanache [View]

    Wow!!! What a logic! Incredible and yet, so simple!
    Maybe simplicity is what best defines your mind.

    I'm sure you never intended to start here a U.S. vs. 'rest of the world' debate, but you sound really frustrated to me. I guess you'll overcome your frustrations when you'll have the courrage to replace the word 'cheap' with 'better'.

    Or perhaps my idea about 'quality' being the first thing that drives U.S. companies is completely wrong...
    • U.S ?!? Where did that come from?
      2002-08-08 14:58:09  problem1 [View]

      Seems to me that continuity in the name of the product should be an important consideration. Of course the politics that surround the importation of cheap labor does make it more so and this is all I meant to bring to light. If this new improved Java should be called WhizBang v1.0 rather than Java, then employers have an easy out to consider imported workers--couldn't find a native worker with any WhizBang experience, had to look abroad! Of course, there are already many ways to do this...keep an eye out for people with 10+ years experience with Java--U.S. Citizens need not apply.

      Sounds like you're being defensive about these programs, so I want you to know that I'm happy to compete with you on an equal footing. What troubles me is that companies can bring you over and pay you less than fair market wages due to a visa status that really is intended to exploit you and improve the bottom line for employers. That puts the squeeze on me, too, and I do feel it. The only worker shortage that's for real is a shortage of cheap workers.

      And, please, get a clue...quality is certainly not what drives U.S. companies. Have you seen the news? Enron? WorldCom? Hello? These guys are not focused on quality; they are focused on money and for them, well...they *do* subsitute the word 'better' for 'cheap'.