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Weblog:   Creativity, Flow, and Joy in Programming
Subject:   I love to program, too. But...
Date:   2002-08-05 05:44:58
From:   chexsum
Response to: I love to program, too. But...

The correct world is "commercial," not proprietary.


You are telling me what I am thinking? I know the difference between Commercial and Proprietory and I only dislike Proprietory programs. Commercial programs can be used alongside Free Software. Commercial Software is sometimes a necessity and is sometimes better.


Then how can you presume to understand my situation?


I do understand part of your situation but as I stated, I do not work in the industry, I am only giving you my opinion about why I choose Free Software. I have programmed for a long time, I started when I was ~10 years old and grew out of it at ~17 as it wasnt morally and financially viable to pursue my hobby further (read: Profession). I did not presume anything about you that you didnt write in your comment, you said you may not have any food as a result of your code being GPLed. I think it is safe for me to 'assume' that you are a Programmer of Proprietory Software.


You claim the GNU Operating System cannot exist and that Free Software cannot have a 'professional image'. In the real world GNU runs alot of the Internet and is starting to run alot of Workstations not to mention alot of embedded devices. A lot of your comments are pure propaganda (read: FUD) and your views are tainted by money from what I have read. I am very open to learning and you taught me nothing today that I didnt already know.


Insert coin to play again.


PS. I work in the Automotive Industry, I am not exactly putting an industry out of business when I fix a car at home. I hope to work with computers one day as that is where my talents are, sure I can get a panel straight as a rule but I can also fix a problem with a computer in less time than most people. I would never want to make more than enough money to put food on the table and to support my few hobbies. You probably are overpaid and underworked but I do not make assumptions and I do not seek to change your situation.

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  • I love to program, too. But...
    2002-08-05 12:07:58  brettglass [Reply | View]

    You write:

    > You are telling me what I am thinking?

    No, I'm telling you that you're misusing
    terminology in a way that's intended to confuse
    and mislead.... Just as the FSF does in its
    propaganda. If you're smart, you won't be fooled
    by that propaganda.

    > I know the difference between Commercial and
    > Proprietory and I only dislike Proprietory
    > programs.

    If that were true, then you would not support
    the GPL. The purpose of the GPL is to destroy
    vendors and authors of *commercial* software.

    > You claim the GNU Operating System cannot exist

    No, I did not claim that. However, I do state
    that the GPL is unconscionable (and likely
    unenforceable) and that such code should be
    licensed under a truly free license -- not one
    which makes the code very un-free as the GPL
    does. (I note that you use the term "Free
    Software", with initial caps, indicating that
    you may have swallowed the FSF's propaganda hook,
    line and sinker. I hope that this is not the case.

    > A lot of your comments are pure propaganda

    Not so at all. They're supported, 100%, by fact,
    and their purpose is to expose the FSF's
    misleading and deceptive propaganda.

    > and your views are tainted by money from
    > what I have read.

    I see. You claim that you work as a mechanic.
    Does that mean that if you believe that you
    should be paid for your work your views are
    "tainted by money?"

    > Insert coin to play again.

    No thanks. You sound too much like a broken
    record -- parroting the FSF's "party line" --
    already.

    --Brett Glass

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