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  Inside Pandora: Web Radio That Listens to You
Subject:   Last.FM and 20th Century
Date:   2006-08-21 11:14:42
From:   BradFuller
Hi Don,


LastFM player doesn't seem to work on my Fedora Core 5. But, there is a great workaround. Amarok, a well known and very good player on most Linux distributions, has added the "Nearest Neighbor" stream in the Playlist menu.


However, the best result that I've found for specifying a specific genre is as follow:


1. Create a "Similar Artists Radio" station: Goto Last.fm. Under the "Listen" section type in an artist that represents the music you'd like to listen to under "Similar Artists Radio" and press return


2. Copy the Link Location: In Opera: Right Click "Play Your Station" icon and select "Copy Link Address". Similar procedure in other browsers to copy the address of the radio stream.


3. Create an Amarok Radio Stream: Go to Playlists in Amarok, Right-click and select "Add Radio Stream." Name the stream anything you'd like and paste what you copied in #2 above into the URL spot. This will be a long series of numbers.


That's it. Now you've got a new LastFM Radio Stream based on a specific artist. I assume that this procedure would work with most audio players that can play Internet streams.


Creating a Radio Stream based on the artist "Steve Reich" brought up pieces by Varese, Stockhausen, Eno and Glass. Just a minute ago, I was listening to "And You Don't Even Listen To Noise!" by Stilluppsteypa. (http://www.music-map.com/stilluppsteypa.html.) An interesting piece. However, the next piece played was: "Cooper's World" by Squarepusher. So, it's not foolproof.


Another example: I just created another station based on Stockhausen and the first tune is: "Part 2" by La Monte Young on Theatre of Eternal Music. Sounds like a bunch of squealing tires. Ok, it's 20th century! But, the next tune: Beethoven. Hmmmm.....

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  • Last.FM and 20th Century
    2006-08-21 12:11:52  don@sonaural.com [View]

    In windows, I just use the windows media player as the LastFM player seems a bit buggy - sometimes it doesn't play if you switch to another application, or open a new web browser. In Linux they say they support:
    * Quod Libet
    * XMMS
    * AmaroK
    * Noatun
    * Banshee

    The similar artist selections do tend to stray a bit. But I sort of like that. If the Steve Reich channel only played the handful of acknowledged minimalists, I think it'd be pretty narrow. My point was more that LastFM can address some of these genres where the genomic approach will have trouble with them. I can't imagine what genomes would work with someone like Stockhausen for example. I don't know that it could even be done in this case. His music is so varied in itself. Gesang de Junglige for example is in a totally different sound world than Momente.
    • Brad Fuller photo Last.FM and 20th Century
      2006-08-21 12:23:40  Brad Fuller | O'Reilly Blogger [View]

      I think it would be either very difficult or very easy to create music matching for 20th century artists. All dependent on the number of criteria. Just deciding on the criteria, though, would be difficult!

      Note that even though artists, like Stockhausen, have varied music in their repertoire, that doesn't come into play with Pandora. Their analysis is on a song by song basis, not by artist.