Switching Back to Desktop Linux
Subject:   Hmm
Date:   2006-06-23 06:28:18
From:   JulesLt
I think getting uptight over having to install the developer toolset to get hold of gcc is getting a bit petty.

You are talking about something that is designed as a consumer oriented OS. Why clutter up their installation with stuff they don't use?

Note being able to diagnose app problems :
You can sample messages from running apps, but if you didn't get far enough to work out how to do that, or use any of the diagnosis tools in the developer toolkit, then I imagine that the results would also be meaningless.

As for any claim that apt-get is 'easier' than dragging an application bundle. Erm, no it's not.

For the record, I spend most of my day in vi. Good old proper greenscreen vi, not even vim, because I find vim too slow to open. What I don't do is mistake my prowess and 18 years of vi usage for meaning vi is 'easier' in any way, or even 'more powerful'.

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  • Hmm
    2006-06-23 08:03:43  chromatic | O'Reilly AuthorO'Reilly Blogger [View]

    That's a very selective view of my argument. I can understand not having GCC installed by default, but deliberately removing parts of Perl and Ruby from the base installation and forcing the installation of XCode to get them back is a little silly.

    I mean, it's a desktop OS. Why install half of Perl and Ruby? Why install them at all?

    Likewise, claiming that dragging an application bundle to a folder is easier than typing <tt<apt-get install foo</tt> completely ignores all of the work you had to do to find, download, and extract that installation bundle. It's not a fair comparison to point to the last part of the process and jump up and down and claim that the easy part of the process is easier than the entirety of the other process.