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Weblog:   the DMCA protects search engine page caching, indexing, etc.? Not so fast.
Subject:   example of Google Print FUD
Date:   2005-11-10 09:01:14
From:   sid_steward
Here's an example of the misinformation I'm talking about, published by Lawrence Lessig. I'll simply quote my email to the author.


Hello-


Just read your Wired piece Google's Tough Call:
http://lookleap.com/wired.com/a4


You say:


"Indeed, their claims about Google represent the biggest landgrab in the history of the Internet, and if taken seriously, will chill a wide range of innovation. Because if the AAP is right, it's not Google Print that's illegal. The outlaw is Google itself - and Yahoo!, and MSN Search, and the Internet Archive, and every other technology that makes knowledge useful in a digital age."


"Think about Google's core business: It copies whatever content it finds on the Web and puts that content in an index. It doesn't ask the copyright owner first, though it does exclude content if asked. Thus, Google wants to do for books exactly what it has always done for the Web. Why should one be illegal and the other different?"


Which suggests that indexing the web is protected only by fair use. That if Google loses its fair use battle with print publishers, it will no longer be able to index the web.


However, the DMCA includes sections specifically intended to allow Google, Yahoo, etc. to index and cache online information.


Please see:
the DMCA protects search engine page caching, indexing, etc.
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/8358


And:
The Digital Millennium Copyright Act
http://www.arl.org/info/frn/copy/band.html


You might also find this interesting:
copyright law lets libraries distribute Twilight Zone material in full
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/8359


Cheers-


Sid

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  • Gordon Mohr photo example of Google Print FUD
    2005-11-10 16:38:07  Gordon Mohr | [Reply | View]

    As noted in my message yesterday, I believe you are misreading the relevant statute. Nothing in it allows Google to, on its own initiative, make copies of material it finds on the web. (The caching/transmission/storage clauses all provide only for immunity when the activity is triggered by others; the info-location-tool clause only applies to "referring or linking".)

    So why can Google retrieve those copies, index them, and in one form or another (the 'cache' or reverse-index) maintain 'copies' of the material? Fair use.

    - Gordon

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