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Weblog:   MySQL conference wraps up with a vision
Subject:   google voodoo
Date:   2005-05-01 07:21:05
From:   ajeru
I don't quite see how it is useful to apply the requirements of an internet search engine to all types of data processing. Adam Bosworth's only concern seems to be how huge amounts of poorly structured data can be narrowed down to a few hundered links. That's what we get from google today (thanks by the way) and what we got from Altavista many years ago in roughly the same way.


The technology is actually so primitive that I can't even find a book written _by_ a particular person without finding all the rubbish people have written _about_ this person. I would be very interested to hear how RSS is going to solve this problem. And I would be very interested to hear how people are supposed to analyse their sales figures using text queries on top of Atom.

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  • google voodoo
    2005-05-04 18:23:30  terris [View]

    "sales figures" ...

    RDBMS isn't going anywhere. Sales figures will continue to be computed by a SQL query processor and archived on other systems such as data warehouses.

    Has XML lived up to its promise? What were those promises? How about "data everywhere?"

    1. Is the data available by a consistent standards-based interface?
    2. Is the data consumable by a consistent standards-based interface?

    XML has done a good job satisfying the latter but not the former. HTTP is closest to satisfying that goal but it is too open ended. SOAP has failed due to its (very much intended) complexity.

    XML has not lived up to its promises. However, if you look at RSS as a publishing mechanism, it has succeeded very well.

    How about an RSS feed for updated sales figures? I use RSS to track new CVSNT releases.

    Why not highly targeted RSS feeds? And, if they are not highly targeted, why not have RSS feeds that accept a query?

    Is this better than using SQL*Plus? Damn right it is. Can I write code to get the data via RSS? I sure can. What would my application do with the information? Who knows. How about making an RSS feed for current stock prices?

    Are there other solutions to RSS/ATOM? You bet. Pick your poison (API). The advantage of RSS/ATOM, like ODBC and JDBC, is that the interface is well known and tons of free software, sample code, and tools already support it.

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