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• it can go both ways
  2005-01-17 05:00:14  Richard Koman | [View]
  
  
  The fact that CK appears in the Post in no way zeros out his conservative take on things. His shocking figures outline a whopping two week sample, during which Bush was stumbling over himself during the debates and deaths were mounting in Iraq. Bad media coverage isnt necessarily a sign of bias; it could be a sign of bad leadership. (I couldnt find this study by the way - have a link?)
  
  When asked, this is how journalists describe themselves:
  
  Q#22. On social issues, how would you characterize your political orientation? Q#23. On economic issues, how would you characterize your political orientation?
  22 23
  Left 30% Left 11%
  Center 57% Center 64%
  Right 9% Right 19%
  Other 5% Other 5%
  
  So strongly center and leaning right on economic issues.
  
  see http://www.fair.org/reports/journalist-survey.html
  
  what about the pundits who really frame the way people think about things. Hmm:
  
  Conservative pundits: Pat Buchanan, Fred Barnes, John McLaughlin, David Gergen, Robert Novak, William F. Buckley, Jr., George Will, William Safire, Cal Thomas, Jonathon Alter, Joe Klein, Robert J. Samuelson, James Kilpatrick, Rush Limbaugh, and hundreds of other conservative radio talk-show hosts.
  
  Centrists (self-described): Sam Donaldson, Mark Shields, Michael Kinsley, Morton Kondrake, Al Hunt, Jack Germond, Hodding Carter.
  
  Progressive pundits: Jim Hightower (cancelled), Barbara Eirenreich, Molly Ivins.
  
  see http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-liberalmedia.htm
  
  
• it can go both ways
  2005-01-17 06:42:56  flursn [View]
  
  
  One more addendum. In your blog your wrote,
  
  I'm not really interested in this right-left discussion. To me its a power-grassroots discussion. Disenfranchisement comes in many forms. To me blogs represent a nonpartisan method of the grassroots being able to hold those in power to speak the truth and to be deeply transparent. That is a fundamental shift.
  
  If you fail to understand why the vast majority of blogs, and the accompanying success of the blogsphere, came into being then you'll never understand why liberal media will fight the blog movement, even when they harm their liberal friends like DailyKos or TalkingPointsMemo. The blogosphere is all about politics, no one can claim to be a fence-sitter. In fact, most blogs to the left and to the right enjoy vivid exchange with other blogs on matters of politics.
  
  Believe me, you can't talk away liberal bias in old media by ignoring it, and you can't cure it by ignoring it. The benefit of the 'sphere is that it makes visible bias on both sides, and that both sides still have the feeling that they get their fair share of public representation.
• it can go both ways
  2005-01-17 06:27:50  flursn [View]
  
  
  I don't want to drag this on and on, but -
  
  Of course liberal journalists describe themselves as being "moderate" or "centrist" inasmuch as you'll find no liberal Democrat at the DNC who'd describe himself as being a liberal. Suddenly all of them become moderates. Could that be because they know they can't win an election when being so much to the left of mainstream opinion?
  
  Doesn't it strike you as odd that the self-description depicts even-handedness while actual voting among journalists follows a strict liberal line?
  
  Furthermore, you've cherry-picked conservative pundits as to give the impression that indeed there's not much to the liberal bias thang.
  
  Well, let's assume for a moment that your sample were accurate. Take a look at final election results by county. Urban coastal counties, and a few in the midlands voted overwhelmingly for Kerry. Compare that figure to the home markets, and aggregation of aforementioned liberal news outlets. So you want to tell me that journalists at New York's Gray Lady are surrounded by a majority of Democrat voters, that they hang out only with Democrat associates, that they put out hit piece after hit piece on Bush months before election time, but, miraculously, they are "centrists"? No, Richard, they breath the liberal line, they stick strictly to Democrat talking points, and they vote Democrat. Please, don't fool yourself.
  
  In the end I don't really mind how you try to explain away liberal bias. What really matters is market movement. You don't seem to understand that blogs are not about shaping public opinion. No blog can invoke a lasting sentiment based on political leaning. As I've explained before in the other thread the marvelling success of blogs lies not in simply creating an alternative news or opinion source but in resembling a movement which was already there.
  
  The point is that the blogosphere in terms of political leaning is divided into two camps, liberal and conservative, and that both sides attract approx. half of the 'spheres visitors. Which is just fine. Actually, this is the equilibrium where traditional paper- and tv-based journalism once was. However, during the past three decades we've seen an unfortunate development which resulted in news outlets being dominated by liberal hacks, perpetually re-inforcing their one-minded worldview by hiring mostly liberals. Even the emergence of Fox News could not even-out that drift.
  
  Blogs do not restore the old equilibrium by counter-balancing old media. They are a new media that mirrors actual political leanings in the public.
  
  We don't have to fix old media. Fixing corrupt (as in broken) market players is the statist, top-down way of regulating markets. The news slash punditry market has regulated itself by creating the blogosphere, thus leaving old media in the dust because they simply refuse to give to the customer what 50+ percent of them, i.e. Republican voters, want.
  
  And the customer is always right.