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Subject:   I would love consistent and easy keyboard shortcuts
Date:   2004-12-01 02:06:08
From:   will_macdonald


Why can't we have consistent & obvious keyboard shortcuts.


eg: full screen in DVD player is apple-0, in Qtime it is Apple-f, Real it is Apple-4 !!!! They all play videos, so why can't they have the same shortcut for same task!!!!


Find: in most programs it is Apple-f, in iTunes there is NO shortcut for find box !!


Also,the dialogue box for Don't Save/Save As/Cancel etc. No indication wether you need Apple-d, ctrl-d or just d for don't save. You can't tab between options.


Even worse you get some buttons with no high-lighting, some have a ring round them and some have the button highlighted. It is impossible to work out which of the latter two buttons will be activated if you press return.


I still can't work out what the highlight ring around a button means. (2nd best option after the glowing button ?) What if a button is glowing, and has the highlight ring around it?



Sort it out Apple. At least show me what keyboard short cut I can use, even if they all have to be different.

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  • I would love consistent and easy keyboard shortcuts
    2004-12-07 03:45:16  BjoernK [View]

    Press Command-Option-F.

    This will take you to the find box in the top right corner.

    It works the same in Safari (for the Google-find) and Finder.
    • I would love consistent and easy keyboard shortcuts
      2004-12-17 19:19:41  idiotboy999 [View]

      tabbing will eventually get you there
  • I would love consistent and easy keyboard shortcuts
    2004-12-01 12:27:21  sjk [View]

    Yeah, keyboard/mouse shortcut inconsistencies are high on my list of OS X annoyances. It may be worthwhile encouraging Apple to reimplement the shortcuts architecture, as discussed in John Gruber's under appreciated Losers, Weepers article. That's a more forward thinking strategy, with potential benefits for both users and developers.
  • I would love consistent and easy keyboard shortcuts
    2004-12-01 06:45:14  micampe [View]

    Also,the dialogue box for Don't Save/Save As/Cancel etc. No indication wether you need Apple-d, ctrl-d or just d for don't save. You can't tab between options.

    You can if you activate "full keyboard access", can't remember if it's in the keyboard or accessibility pane.

    I still can't work out what the highlight ring around a button means. (2nd best option after the glowing button ?) What if a button is glowing, and has the highlight ring around it?



    As far as I can tell, the ring means "keyboard focus is here" and the glow means "default button". Enter will activate the default button while space will activate the keyboard focused button.

    P.S: not trying to defend Apple here, just trying to relieve you from some annoyances ;)
    • I would love consistent and easy keyboard shortcuts
      2004-12-01 07:51:54  will_macdonald [View]

      I just looked in preferneces -> Keyboard & Mouse and my enable full keyboard access has been checked all the time. I still don't see any clues about what is the keyboard shortcut.
      • I would love consistent and easy keyboard shortcuts
        2004-12-22 02:22:42  WurdBendur [View]

        You can hit tab to move that focus ring around. As for the shortcuts, just hit d for Don't Save, escape for Cancel, and return for Save, or use the keyboard focus.
        These aren't always reliable, but they work most of the time. It just depends on the application you're using.