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Subject:   I'm sorry....
Date:   2004-11-18 06:47:17
From:   b.j.
Response to: I'm sorry....

I agree with AndyP entirely.

A better example may be to find a test tool that can test gui interactions. HTTP::Recorder and PAMIE are examples of such tools for testing web applications.

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  • I'm sorry....
    2004-11-26 11:00:35  decoder [View]

    Gotta disagree here fellas. I totally agree w/your critique; this article has no useful new information and is incredibly naive. And I totally agree that there are things in the view that absolutely must be tested for. What I disagree about is that you have to go straight to a scripted integration testing tool from this decidedly simplistic 'test the model' approach. In fact, the Gamma/Beck book Contributing to Eclipse has a lot of excellent examples of writing UI unit tests. Unfortunately, that is using a framework that is not really hosted like web frameworks are. Even the new Manning book on JUnit Recipes punts on this one. Someone needs to do much more work on this and I tend to blame the framework developers. Why doesn't JSP and JSF come with a simple way to do unit tests? All they would need to do is make it very simple to compile a page (without having to run the whole container) and/or mock it completely.