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  BYOB: Build Your Own Browser
Subject:   RE: Again?
Date:   2004-01-24 11:42:15
From:   josephbriggsorn
Response to: RE: Again?

lopossum was quite harsh in his criticism but he does have a glimmer of a point. The Cocoa tutorials once were in-depth and inspiring, but now they tend toward the basics. I don't mind so much since I do access those other sites you intimate, but it would be nice to get the same depth from O'Reilly since I really like the site.


Of course a zero code browser tutorial must be done but even at my basic level, I've done this on my own as soon as I installed XCode (it is that easy). What I and lopossum and others like us might appreciate more would be a deeper look at WebKit, like how it interprets and renders html content. I think a small(ish) split view html editor tutorial would be awesome. I would be very willing to read through four 4 to 6 page installments for something like that.


I hope I don't sound like I'm "insulting your family," I would just like to think that O"Reilly is capable of serving the basic, intermediate and advanced developers/hobbyists who visit their site.

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  • Derrick Story photo RE: Again?
    2004-01-24 12:51:20  Derrick Story | O'Reilly AuthorO'Reilly Blogger [Reply | View]

    Well, there are a few things that I'd like you to keep in mind.

    First, I think we can discuss this topic with civility, as you have in your post.

    Next, remember this is the first article in a two-part series. The second article does drill down more. But not everyone who comes to the site is as seasoned as you and lopossum. A large part of our readership is moving from power user to developer and wants this type of information. And one of my goals is to help as many people become Mac developers as wants to.

    Also, please remember that the contributions to this site come from members of our audience who are not paid very much and give freely of their time because they believe in this platform and want to help others master it too.

    There is certainly the detail you want in our O'Reilly books, which we spend countless hours working on and at great expense. They are available through our Safari online service and in bookstores everywhere.

    This site does not have that kind of budget. It is free. And it is dependent upon the people who contribute to it. I thank every writer who publishes on this site for his or her time. I think our audience does a great job of providing us with interesting, topical content.

    Finally, I've learned that when I publish content for both beginning developers and seasoned veterans, the site is more vibrant and has more traffic. When I publish only the in-depth stuff, traffic wanes, and if it stayed that way, the site would be in danger.