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Subject:   LimeWire is slow.
Date:   2001-04-27 16:11:26
From:   sgamer
Ok, I like Limewire's ideas and all, but bearshare is tons better. Why? Well, here are a few points where it excels:

1. Faster program. Limewire is written in java, therefore running on a java virtual machine, which makes it about 2x as slow on my computer (p2/333mhz, 128mb ram). i would say i still have an average computer, so that makes no real difference in this, but BearShare is written in C++, making it much faster than limewire.

2. Quality of Service meter. On limewire, I have no way of telling what clients are busy uploading and which ones are open that I can get a good download from. Half the time, the downloads on limewire wont connect to the hosts, because they are busy/down/etc. I should be a good test of host connection, seeing as I'm using an OC12 for my tests.

3. Gnutella clutter. The excess bandwidth wasted by limewire is large, but that is to be expected with gnutella. The one difference is that bearshare seems to dodge that extra usage and give great download speeds regardless, while limewire is clogged by it. I have never had a 200+ kbps download on limewire, while i routinely get 1.5mbps downloads on bearshare.

In the end, the basic criteria of a good gnutella client are:
1. Download speed vs Gnutella bandwidth
2. Host connections
3. Overall program speed
4. Search result features (Quality of Service)

Everything else is secondary. Who cares about a pretty interface, group options, chat options (who the hell chats on GNUTELLA?), etc, when you cant even get complete downloads? Not me.

And where's Gnucleus? :D


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  • Steve McCannell photo LimeWire is slow.
    2001-05-16 12:25:08  Steve McCannell | [View]

    Well, I can't say I agree with you (as obvious by my review of BearShare). I hate to sound like a LimeWire evangelist/BearShare critic, so I'll try to comment without choosing sides :)

    From a non-tech savvy perspective, the one I would choose comes down to how easy it is to use and if it works right. That was LimeWire or iMesh, I ran into to many troubles and missing features with BearShare to warrant my endorsement over another product. I never have a problem getting connected to multiple nodes using LimeWire, either at work or at home, and I get far less failures using it over BearShare.

    As far as LimeWire being slow... well, it's java, so it will naturally run slower, but, as I pointed out in the article, being connected to the network using BearShare has caused my computer to grind to a crawl and even give me the "blue screen of death". I don't run into that problem very often using LimeWire.

    I believe that your sentence "I have never had a 200+ kbps download on limewire, while i routinely get 1.5mbps downloads on bearshare" might be true for some, but I've gotten many downloads over 1mbps using LimeWire.

    To tell you the truth, if I were really into file-trading, I'd stick with nap servers, where many of these issues are avoided :)