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Weblog:   iLike iComic
Subject:   I'll JoT down a few reasons we don't like these aps...
Date:   2003-11-24 13:12:53
From:   snaggy
"The only obvious problem is that this steals impressions from sites that depend on advertising."


Nitrozac and I are not big fans of these kinds of aps. Sure, there's a slight chance it may allow more people to see our work, but they do miss out on a lot of the fun, and we take a bigger hit cost-wise.


Besides depriving us of a few micro-cents on advertising, the less obvious ones are...


-adds to our bandwith costs.
-these aps create a ton of error messages when they can't find the proper comic.
-takes away from the Joy of Tech user experience... for instance, there no chance the user will find Relevancy Links, or do the JoyPoll, or click embedded links that may be in the comic.
-people miss out on all the fun in our Forums. :-)


Ok, just a view from the artist's side of things. :-)

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  • Point/Counterpoint
    2003-11-24 15:22:12  tweep [View]

    I'm a newbie webcartoonist (by which I mean I've only been doing this for 9 mo. or so), so I have a somewhat different perspective from the Joy of Tech folks. I can't help but like the iComic app, if only for its simple elegance (although, out of respect for the wishes of other webcartoonists, I don't use it to browse any webcomic besides my own...it's a handy means of flipping through my own archives).

    I liked it so much, in fact, that I wrote the plugin for my comic and shared it with the other iComickers; doing so helped me address some of the concerns raised above and got me a few new readers in the process. I was able to streamline the process of retrieving and downloading the strips so that it would take no more bandwidth than going through the archives by means of the web site (sometimes it takes less bandwidth, in fact) and wouldn't generate any error messages. I was also able to put in links to my main page, forums, and so on (though I don't know how many people actually inspect that little drop-down menu of links).

    It could be argued that those of my readers who use iComic to view the comic "aren't doing me any good" (for lack of a better phrase), in that if I had advertising or a store on my website, they'd never see it. But, the way I figure it, perhaps the iComickers will come through by telling their non-iComicking friends about my strip and my readership will grow.

    All that said, I do understand the concerns raised by Snaggy, and they're valid ones. I think maybe RSS will provide an alternative that's still convenient for readers, but allows greater interaction between the creator and his audience.

    So I've got one of those, too. ;)

    - Ben

    Comic:
    http://www.tweep.com/comic/

    iComic plugin:
    http://www.tweep.com/downloads/Tweep.comic.sit

    RSS:
    http://www.tweep.com/backend.php
    • Re: Point/Counterpoint
      2003-11-25 10:41:22  anonymous2 [View]

      I think you've got the right idea. Instead of fighting iComic, you should use it to help you. I look at those drop down links a lot of the time. I've even used a link to donate to an artists (so don't forget to put a "Donate" link in your plugin ;).
      Maybe you could work with the developer, and plugin authors as well to impliment links and/or blog comments to be downloaded to iComic.
    • Re: Point/Counterpoint
      2003-11-25 10:40:39  anonymous2 [View]

      I think you've got the right idea. Instead of fighting iComic, you should use it to help you. I look at those drop down links a lot of the time. I've even used a link to donate to an artists (so don't forget to put a "Donate" link in your plugin ;).
      Maybe you could work with the developer, and plugin authors as well to impliment links and/or blog comments to be downloaded to iComic.
  • I'll JoT down a few reasons we don't like these aps...
    2003-11-24 14:58:18  anonymous2 [View]

    Would you go for a banner ad window ala Sherlock 1? And maybe a toggle button that would allow the comic viewer to show the whole web page vs. just the comic image itself?

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