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  Ten Things I Dig About Xcode
Subject:   This is a general problem with the Mac GUI
Date:   2003-10-29 08:55:42
From:   anonymous2
"when you edit multiple files, you ask to compile, you get the window asking to save the files, but hitting enter does not "click the default button" of the dialog. Instead, you have to click manually with the mouse."


I hate to say anything nce about Windows, but in Windows keyboard navigation is a first class citizen, not an afterthought. Regardless of the API you use, what apple calls "full keyboard navigation" is enabled... and it goes far beyond what Apple provides.


I use a Mac at home and Windows at work, and every morning and every evening I go through a frustrating readjustmant. On the Windows side it's the usual "you never know what the h*ll Windows is doing" problems. On the mac it's going back to the "one hand on the keyboard one hand on the mouse" navigation... not only does Apple have lousy keyboard navigation, but if you're mousing around you have to keep your fingers ready for option-click and command-click.

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  • This is a general problem with the Mac GUI
    2003-12-04 00:41:34  anonymous2 [View]

    Exactly!!!

    I hate mac. Mac sucks sucks sucks in keyboard navigation.
    Windows is the mother of keyboard navigation.

    I wish mac could learn from windows.

    I especially like Alt+<underlined menu items>, which
    is sort of universally works everywhere even if you
    happen to forget the shortcut keys.
    • This is a general problem with the Mac GUI
      2003-12-30 07:31:46  anonymous2 [View]

      You didn't mention that they have one-button mouse :-)
      • This is a general problem with the Mac GUI
        2004-01-01 23:35:46  anonymous2 [View]

        Sure, but YOU didn't mention that two button mice work just as well on macs as on any other computer. It's just that Apple doesn't make them.
        • This is a general problem with the Mac GUI
          2004-01-18 22:26:48  anonymous2 [View]

          Actually any Mouse with any number of bottons will work well in OS X, I use an intelliMouse Explorer and OS X allows programability for all those extra buttons...

          OS X's Aqua GUI has no general problems its only that your point of view has you looking at it differently. Microsoft made headway with XP's Luna GUI, and supposedly "longhorn" will be even better, but as far as system stability and ease of use Mac OS X is still a decade ahead of Microsoft, and will be for the forseeable future...
    • This is a general problem with the Mac GUI
      2004-07-24 03:44:19  maximus [View]

      Just enable Keyboard navigation. It is an option on OS X. Any menu any submenu becomes accessible via the keyboard.

      In addition to key-stroke accelerators you may navigate through menus with arrow keys.

  • This is a general problem with the Mac GUI
    2003-12-17 13:59:43  anonymous2 [View]

    What are you talking about?
    I can't recreate the problem you describe when using 1.0.1, are you using an early version or something?

    If "enter" doesn't click the default button, the space bar always does...

    besides, what rational reason would you have for not using "always save" when compiling? Use an SCM tool and have XCode save files for you.