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| Subject: | Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar | |
| Date: | 2003-10-18 09:37:02 | |
| From: | anonymous2 | |
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Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-12-05 00:15:25 anonymous2 [View]
But the itunes quality is iffy, and limited in what you can do with it.
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Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-21 10:07:14 anonymous2 [View]
well said.
If people are not breaking the law they've nothing to fear.
I think O'Reilly should stop advocating illegal practices and publishing content that allows people to circumvent the law.
In most countries such are criminal offenses in themselves.
In Europe too it's easy to get legal music.
I currently own about 500 music CDs, most purchased in Europe (apart from a few dozen I got from the Americas because they're impossible to get here), a number that increases by one or two a month (and goes down again when once every few years I cull my collection and sell the chaff). -
Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-21 16:35:34 anonymous2 [View]
First off, just because something is a law dose not mean it is correct (example, was it worng for a Black woman to refuse to give up a seat on the buss to a white man? - BUT remember, at the time the law said she had to! - And before you start, I know it's two compleately differant circomstances, I was just making a point, nothing more.)
Now more to the point - I actually have no problem with the artists getting paid (I no I am not going to scream how little they actually get, that my be true, but it is not relivant to the point I am attempting to make.) I don't want to have to buy an entire CD, when I actually only want a few tracks off of it, and I want to be able to use those tracks to make my own customized CD (either standard Audio CD, or MP3 Audio CD.), Sometimes I even want to edit a track, Take 2 and combine them, exc. The so called "leagal" MP3 sites, first of all are limited in what groups/songs they have, and a lot even tend to send spam to your E-Mail box (yes I have tried them, and first off couldn't find anything I actually wanted, and long after I requested my account be removed, I kept getting spam from them.).
And stuff like - Well, iTunes I won't comment on since I know little about it, but the "New Napster" (Not in operation yet, but I know enough about, and will be in operation leagally soon), and I have little doubt that most if not all are like this - you can not (with most tracks) use them to make an audio CD using standard burning software, you can not edit them with standard audio editing programs, they can not easily be converted to MP3, or WAV format (so such software can be used on them), and the list of nagitives goes on, and on...
Now if you could give me a leagal P2P network - where all flow free (just like the "illeagle" ones, and charge a reasonable flat fee per month for unlimited use (Not just $1.00, but not $1000 either!), and did noting to the files during xfer to protect them in any way shape or form, just EXACTLY like the current P2P networks work (Including no filtering "unreleased", or any thing else), I'll go for that....
Farther, a lot of the current P2P networks send Ads to the clients while they are logged on - I submit that it would even be posible to do it at no cost to the users, just the server use the advertising revinue to pay the RIAA [or whoever]).. And that is not too far off base (Pricing wise) from what the "New Napster" is offering - for low usage they want $0.99 a track, or $9.95 for a full CD - but you can also get unlimited use for $9.95. So why not something simular, but with real UNRESTRICTED MP3s????? -
Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-12-10 12:36:25 anonymous2 [View]
Writing a masters thesis? long enough!
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Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-20 05:47:53 anonymous2 [View]
Sure, it's simple -- for those who happen to live in the USA. If you live in Europe it's not quite so simple as the music industry just can't agree on the licensing terms. All you get is "we'll start our own online music service real soon now" statements from the record companies as well as CDs with copy-protection. Now that's customer service for you! -
Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-20 17:01:21 anonymous2 [View]
The old copy-protected CD scam...
Those I absolutle refuse to pay 1 cent for - that is unless something is included with them that by-passes the protection, and allows you to do whatever with them (not just straight duplicate, but make MP3z, exc. with them), So, if they use copy-protection, give me a cracker preferable with the CD, but at least availible - if not, then I just won't even consider paing for that CD - if I don't know it's copy-protected, I will get my money back for it (and they will give my a refund despite store policy, beleive me! - Besides, not alerting you that it has such protection on it before you pay for it is plain wrong!). -
Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-20 08:19:50 Jason Deraleau |
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Yes, but in Europe you don't have to worry about the RIAA ;)
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Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-19 20:26:54 anonymous2 [View]
And what are you able to do with those files once you have DLed them?
What is mean is, are they actually MP3 format?, If not, that's a bad sign right there, but, just for the sake of argument, let's look a bit deeper - are they at least as good a quality as the 128bit rate MP3s you find on p2p networks?, Can they be easily Re-Transmitted with software other then there own, AND always work, reguardless of how meny differant systems it is on?, Can you use standard audio editing software on these files if you wish?, Can you make your own Audio CD with them, using ANY burning software (not be able to do it, but only with there own software.)?, Once burned to Audio CD (if it's posible at all), can that disc then be ripped with any standard audio CD ripper?, And for the last one I can think of at the moment, can these files easily be converted to another audio file format (whatever it is to WAV, WMA, MP3, MP2, exc.)?
If the answer to even one of these questions to no, then as far as I am concerned, ther are totally worthless.....
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Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-19 07:45:20 anonymous2 [View]
People are paying for songs on the iTunes Music Store because they think it's a good way to support musicians. But by giving musicians just a few cents from each sale, iTunes destroys a huge opportunity. Instead of creating a system that gets virtually all of fans' money directly to artists-- finally possible with the internet-- iTunes takes a big step backwards. Apple calls iTunes "revolutionary" but really they're just letting record companies force the same exploitive and unfair business model onto a new medium.
If you build a shiny new house on a landfill it still stinks Apple says iTunes is "better than free" because it's "fair to artists and record companies." That's simply not true. First of all, Apple gets 3 times as much money as musicians from each sale. Apple takes a 35% cut from every song and every album sold, a huge amount considering how little they have to do. Record labels receive the other 65% of each sale. Of this, major label artists will end up with only 8 to 14 cents per song, depending on their contract. Many of them will never even see this paltry share because they have to pay for producers and record label "costs", both of which can be enormous. Until the musician "recoups" these costs, when you buy an iTunes song, the label gives them nothing -
Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-19 10:33:56 anonymous2 [View]
until the model changes between the artists and the labels. perhaps (and i hope) to the point where the relationship between the artist and the fan becomes more "one to one" resulting in the artist getting MOST of the money we are stick with the system we have...
Please answer me this question,
Which method of song downloads does the artist receive more money, Kazaa or itunes...
so until then please stop trying to sooth your moral soul by saying that "you are only stealing since the artists are getting screwed so bad by the RIAA"
STOP STEALING!
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Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-21 07:36:05 anonymous2 [View]
Stop stealing? No one is stealing. I am entitled to share an mp3 directory, since I bought the music with my own money. In addition, who is trying to sooth their moral soul? There are few people who have a moral dilemma when it comes to file-sharing. Its simply a gathering of music lovers wishing to explore new music, and listen to their favorite artists...
Anyway, it seems some Senators have the good sense to realize that file-sharing isn't stealing.. http://www.p2pnet.net/article/8551
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Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-21 10:41:00 anonymous2 [View]
It is stealing since you are brazenly violating the copyright holders' rights. It does not matter whether you agree with the concept of copyright. The laws do not require your agreement, only your compliance. -
If the laws are unjust, the people will not comply.
2003-10-25 11:55:36 anonymous2 [View]
This statement flies in the face of all human history. If the laws or their application are sufficiently unjust, the people will not comply. (c.f. American Revolution, India, South Africa, and - dare I say - Iraq.)
There is also a large, established branch of copyright law know as Fair Use which has been quite ignored by the antagonists in this case. -
If the laws are unjust, the people will not comply.
2003-10-25 23:28:19 anonymous2 [View]
It is absurd to compare tune stealing with, for instance, the fight against apartheid in South Africa. The latter was an epic struggle for human dignity. The former is just amoral hedonism masquerading as some kind of Robin Hood redistributive scheme. As for Fair Use, it does not allow people to make illegal copies of copyrighted recordings freely available on a public network. -
Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-23 15:35:53 anonymous2 [View]
Sure the laws need your agreement... You must elect the shit-head that makes it... -
Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-24 20:03:43 anonymous2 [View]
On the contrary, you do not have to elect anyone. You are free not to vote. Whether you vote or not, and whether your candidate wins or not, you still have to obey the law whether you agree with it or not. If you do not obey the law, and you get caught, you will face the consequences regardless of how you feel about it. That's what it means to say that the law demands compliance, not agreement. -
Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-25 05:36:15 anonymous2 [View]
This is true, I amso might add, it's rare that those actually affected by a law have the oppertunity to vote on it directly, and anymore there is no technical reson why the average Joe Blow could not directly participate in such things (hell by using modern technoligy, odviously with some sort of secured connection, it could be done in just a few seconds of your time, right from your bedroom!) - but I would be willing to bet that if you took a survay on the matter - I think you would find that the majarity have either no opion at all, or simply do not feel that this activity is wrong in anyway, with those that feel it is stealing being left in a fairly low minnaritty. -
Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-25 23:23:03 anonymous2 [View]
I'm not so sure that a survey of the public at large would bear out your intuitions. You might be surprised. Also, whether what you want to do is stealing is simply a legal question. Stealing is unlawful taking, and under the prevailing laws copyright violation is stealing regardless of how one feels about it. Now, whether it is wrong is a different matter: that is an ethical question. The law might be less than fully just. But in the light of such important ethical issues as whether their is a right to healthcare, or a right to privacy (abortion, homosexuality), or whether it was just to invade Iraq, and so on, quibbling over whther one might possibly be justified in stealing tunes seems hopelessly shallow and self-indulgent. -
Another Way to stay off the RIAA radar
2003-10-27 00:41:59 anonymous2 [View]
You are right, it really dose come down to more of an ethical question than anything else, and at this point, I highly doubt the question would be re-opened to the general public. But how ethical is this (actually happened to someone I know) - An independant musician with no contract anywhere gave verbal consent (nothing in writting) to distribute his work (I was there at the time, so I heard him say it was o.k. at least for those couple soungs, even gave us both MP3s that he himself had made of his work) - then later he got angree with this other guy (fortunately not me) and threatened to sue! - Nothing ever happened, but would you call just that threat ethical - after verbal permission was already granted!?? (All he cared about at the time was getting his work out there, and did not want to sign any contracts, reguardless of how favorible to hime they were)- Now I knew this guy (the musician) since highschool. and I say at best that was just plain being an a**hole. But I have to admit, he is not that bright anyway - he drooped out of school with only 2 months left to go in his senior year, and had enough credits that he litteraly would have graduated if he did nothing at all in those 2 months except show up!.......
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