Ten Things I Dig About Panther
Subject:   no quartz extreem
Date:   2003-10-10 16:59:32
From:   maarky
I've got one of those old 500mhz TiBooks with only 8mb video ram. It does not have quartz extreme. Panther seems to rely heavily on quartz extreme, so I was wondering if the graphics stuff would be damn slow on my computer. In short, is it worth upgrading to Panther if you don't have quartz extreme?

And to anybody who suggests I get a new computer I would like to say that I will not be able to afford a new computer after you send me a $3000 check. (the cost of a 17" powerbook)

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  • no quartz extreem
    2003-10-10 19:46:17  anonymous2 [View]

    IMHO, Panther is very usable on a 500MHz Powerbook G4. Your mileage may vary, but it feels at least as snappy, if not more so, than any previous version of OS X.
  • no quartz extreem
    2003-10-10 23:48:52  anonymous2 [View]

    I am in the same situation as yours. Actually I have a G4/400Mhz (Mercury), the very first series. I find Jaguar slow and if Panther does not speed up things a little bit I plan to ditch MacOS X and move to OpenBSD or Linux.
    Before I resort to that are there any tricks to gain some speed ? Disabling transparencies, disabling animations ... what else ?

    • no quartz extreem
      2003-10-11 02:37:08  anonymous2 [View]

      Add an new PCI video card, and put in some memory

      512MB is minium for an fast OS, and put in an Nvidea card.
      • no quartz extreem
        2003-10-11 12:59:58  anonymous2 [View]

        Um, they said they had the G4/400 PowerBook... No adding PCI graphics cards or AGP graphics cards to them (w/o a good soldering iron)

        512MB+ ram will help tho.
        • no quartz extreem
          2003-10-20 13:04:02  anonymous2 [View]

          Also - a good thing to go is to defrag the HD often to improve performance. I noticed this when I installed Jaguar on my 400 MHz TiBook. This helped a lot. I wish Panther had Defrag built in.
  • no quartz extreem
    2003-10-11 00:44:36  anonymous2 [View]

    I have a 350mhz G3 tower that does not have quartz extreme. I have become accustomed to the speed at which 10.2 runs at. However I have access to pre-release versions of 10.3 and let me tell you that it is MUCH faster then 10.2.

    Apple really took the time to optimize the OS. It's really awesome.
  • no quartz extreem
    2003-10-11 04:32:26  anonymous2 [View]

    If you do not have Quartz Extreme, those heavy aqua effects (cube effect when switching user, zooming when you open a file, windows moving when using exposť, etc.) are just disabled.
  • no quartz extreem
    2003-10-11 10:04:23  anonymous2 [View]

    I have a revision A, 400 MHz tibook with 640 megs RAM and Panther has added new life to my machine.

    Fast User Switching does not employ any fancy visual stuff, but Expose does and it's very smooth.

    By all means get Panther, you'll add another year to the life of your tibook.

    All of this and I only have the WWDC build of Panther, and it has since become faster.
  • James Duncan Davidson photo no quartz extreem
    2003-10-11 10:31:01  James Duncan Davidson | O'Reilly AuthorO'Reilly Blogger [View]

    The only way to know for sure how it will work is when Panther shows up on shelves and people have experience with it.
  • Jaguar
    2003-10-11 12:18:06  mcritz [View]

    10.3 is at least as fast as 10.2, and in many cases faster on G3s. My iMac 500se is considerably faster on 10.3 compaired to previous systems.
    • Jaguar
      2003-10-13 06:15:04  dougadams [View]

      Agreed. Panther on my iMac Rev C (with HARMONi 500mHz and without QE) is perceptibly faster and "cleaner". Amazingly so, I would say. Get psyched.
  • no quartz extreme
    2003-10-11 17:02:01  anonymous2 [View]

    No biggie. Performance on non-Quartz Extreme boxes have a major performance boost over Jaguar.
  • no quartz extreem
    2003-10-11 19:16:23  anonymous2 [View]

    Two of my coworkers have been running Panther on an original TiBook and a white 12" iBook, and they've both said that it's faster than Jaguar.