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  Readable Java 1.5
Subject:   Cholesterol - WTF? - I want Smalltalk
Date:   2003-10-06 15:48:25
From:   anonymous2
Response to: Cholesterol - WTF? - I want Smalltalk

Yeah, that must be why languages like C++ and Java are on the way out and Smalltalk is making such a strong comeback. Sheesh!
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  • Cholesterol - WTF? - I want Smalltalk
    2003-10-16 08:58:25  anonymous2 [View]

    He definitely has a point -- have you tried out Ruby lately? If you do, you will never want to go back to the Java or C++ world.
    • Cholesterol - WTF? - I want Smalltalk
      2003-12-20 06:43:33  anonymous2 [View]

      You will if you want your code to run fast.

      Really, folks, the issue is about the Java 1.5
      syntax proposal -- all this stuff about what
      your favorite language is or what else you think
      should be done to Java is juvenile, egocentric,
      and rude to the author. There are a thousand
      forums where you can post your thoughts on
      those subjects.

      The variance syntax looks clearly superior.
      The type syntax looks nice, as long as the
      parser can handle it, but I doubt that you
      could ever convince Sun to switch from the
      angle bracket syntax used in C++, Pizza, etc.
      The eachof syntax is rather problematic,
      looking like an operator rather than a control
      structure. It makes plenty of sense in a
      language that has full-on iterators, like CLU or
      Ruby, but for Java it's out of place. Which to
      me is an argument for leaving the foreach
      operator out of Java 1.5 altogether, and coming
      up with a proposal for a proper iterator syntax.
      The foreach operator is non-orthogonal wart that
      violates basic language design principles.