Article:
  Loop the Loop
Subject:   Why this article under "Cocoa programming" topic?
Date:   2003-09-12 02:32:02
From:   anonymous2
This article is good for beginners who learning C, but i can not see any clue why this article is under "Cocoa programming" topic.
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  • Why this article under "Cocoa programming" topic?
    2003-09-14 06:40:36  anonymous2 [View]

    As a non-programmer with a thorough mental block on Obj-C principles can attest, these lessons have been a godsend.

    Mike had some excellent Cocoa articles written, but I could barely understand half of what he wrote. After these simple lessons, the Cocoa concepts are becoming much more clear. I am even able to explore new concepts and learn them on my own.

    Cocoa is great. Seth is bringing the rest of us up to speed so that we can all enjoy it. This article darn near puts C basics to an end and forces the next step where Mike started from.
  • Why this article under "Cocoa programming" topic?
    2003-09-12 13:17:15  anonymous2 [View]

    Because he is trying to write a C "primer" targeted at those who want to use Cocoa with Objective-C.

    This is too simple for me, but I am an experienced C programmer. However, I've always disagreed with the philosophy that learning ObjC should require a thorough knowledge of C as a pre-requisite.

    Teaching C with ObjC and Cocoa in mind will lead to a different kind of course with certain topics emphasized and others omitted or mentioned in passing. For example, a thorough treatment of the <string.h> functions would be a waste of time since NSString objects handle string manipulation differently. (I believe that to be an excellent programmer, one should be familiar with <string.h>, but that can be put off for a while)

    Between you and me, I'd proceed a little differently, but that's another topic.
    • Why this article under "Cocoa programming" topic?
      2003-09-12 22:55:33  anonymous2 [View]

      I also really do not see the necessity in having such a tutorial, since there already exist SO MANY on the subject. It is not to difficult to find a good tutorial on loops. I also do not believe that learning C, a procedural language, before Objective-C is the best idea. I think it is a great opportunity for brand new programmers to not have to get stuck in the procedural mindset but instead dive in directly to object-oriented design.
      • Why this article under "Cocoa programming" topic?
        2003-10-05 01:07:38  anonymous2 [View]

        By not many exist under this kind of forum. Think of it as a service to the mac users with grand ideas, but no programming experience (or knowledge) at all. Having that in a friendly environment can lead to new exciting cocoa programs once the tutorial is complete (or at least far enough ahead to know about the features of cocoa.

        If you feel left out, you can look for cocoa programming tutorials elsewhere, of which there is also an abundance.