A Musician's Take on File Sharing, DRM, and Copyleft Licensing
Subject:   from John, an unsigned artist
Date:   2003-08-01 11:30:30
From:   anonymous2
Response to: Mp3 Helps, the record industy hurt themselves

nor do i plan to get signed by a major label. i'm glad that most people are of the mind set that artists should be paid for the work they do. i was not impressed by the post where someone told a working musician to get off his ass and do more shows a week when he was already doing 4-5 shows a week. there's a guy doing it himself, puting out good music, gigging, and trying to provide his fans with a good sounding product. please support that. most people do, from what i've read.
anyone who thinks music should be free is just wrong. it will never be, not because I SAY so, but because of the constitutional rights of copyright given to creators of art and science. if you want things to keep progressing, we've got to support innovative minds.
labels are desperate, they're going down. they're signing deals that have as much as 50% royalties to the artist!!!! not that that's not the way it should have been since the beginning, but that's where it's going. i think we'll see more of our artist friend out there working the scene themselves with their own exclusive label. however, all those people who said that bands should tour to get money, who do you think fronts the money for tour support? THE LABEL. ticket prices are going up becaues labels don't have money to put towards touring. so pretty soon everyone will be bitching about that, too. so artists will start to loose more money there. then the only thing people will do is steal music. there's got to be money going to the artists somehow.
look at it this way--i'll utilize the benefits of file sharing to live in california and you find a great band in florida, "gator inflator", over file sharing. but you don't pay for the music because you're going to support them by seeing one of their shows. meanwhile, gator inflator is on their own label, doing REALLY well, pulling in about 300,000. each guy of this 4 piece band pulls in about 75,000 a year. now do you think that if the labels are weary of sending bands on tour since it's not a big money maker that four dudes from florida are going to embark on a nationwide tour with the anticipation that they'll turn a profit? it will rarely happen. it's great that they got their exposure to you, but it's really a shame that you, as a fan, stole their music when you could have bought it for $.80-1.00.
my main concern is people who think music should be free. artists work as hard as anyone else with the added stress of risk. if they know that their stuff is good and that they have a big audience and fan base, but the money is not coming in, how long do you think they will stay in the business (ESPECIALLY if it's their own)? don't steal candy, don't steal cars, don't steal music--support the artists you listen to...i know i could use it!
check out there's free downloads, and if you like those you can order our old cd for $5 and the new one for $8. later all!
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  • Art and Industry
    2003-09-07 03:36:23  anonymous2 [View]

    The assumption that people create art for monies paid to them is wrong. Mankind did not start creating art in order to get paid for creating that art. They started creating art so that other people could see or hear what they have created (so that they could SHARE their art with other human beings). Since the beginning of "industry", we have seen a change in this, and therefore have seen a serious change in the art being created. Just for example: abstract Paintings (or in other words, paintings that are done by someone who has no particular skill in painting but wishes to be called a "painter" nonetheless), The Backstreet Boys, plain and boring looking Furniture and Pottery. In order for us to have high quality art, we need to take the "Industry" out of Art. P2P is a small part of a revolution that is taking the "Industry" out of Art. As for the musician that stated that he plays 4-5 nights a week and expects more than what he is already getting, I would like to note that there are many millions of human beings that work 16 hour days, 6-7 days a week and make barely enough money to keep "their head above water". The sole reason that people are barely making it and working so hard, is because of "Industry". If there were more regulations on "Industry", the playing field would be leveled, thus creating an atmosphere where not only could you make more than enough money to get by, but would also have the time to actually start creating more Art. For the record, I am an unsigned musician. I create art so that I can share it with others, not so that I can get paid for what I create. As a creator of Art, "Industry" has made it very difficult for me to share my art with large masses of other human beings. I look forward to the day when technology defeats the effort of "Industry" to suppress my ability to share my art with the rest of Mankind.

    • Art and Industry
      2003-09-13 19:53:52  anonymous2 [View]

      You are all wrong.
      • Art and Industry
        2004-01-23 17:28:25  orrybreaker [View]

        3 of my friends and my uncle are musicians my friend and uncle are solo and the other two are in the same bands. They all write their own songs and they would like to used p2p for promoting themself. Musicians make money from touring. They figure if they are good enought and the word gets out about them they could tour the state or in the nation. Modles on MTV is destroying music. The real musicians are being treated unfairly, p2p is their only chance of getting heard world wide. They don't get to be on tv just because they are not as preatty like the modles on mtv and plus they are more talentive and have better songs then them.
        P2p is the right for musicians to easily promote themself lets not take that away from them.
        • Art and Industry
          2005-06-01 13:24:03  johnemcd627 [View]

          I think a lot of people are looking at things too narrowly here...

          Keep in mind that the musicians on the radio and prominently displayed in CD stores represent roughly 1% of the total musicians in this country. There are millions of musicians not even on a major label who are composing, producing and distributing CDs on their own or with smaller independent labels...

          And while file sharing undoubtedly helps them--it's free publicity and this generation's version of 'grassroots'--when people stop buying these artists' CDs, it REALLY hurts them. In this case, the artist--not the RIAA or major labels--is losing significant money that could be used to mount tours or pay for production costs (costs that the artist is shouldering).

          For these independent and lesser known artists, the ability of basically anybody to get that artist's music without buying a CD really drains what little resources they've worked hard to build from basically nothing.