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Subject:   RE: iSight Drivers? -- offer for help and question
Date:   2003-06-30 14:55:38
From:   anonymous2
Response to: RE: iSight Drivers? -- offer for help and question

Scott, Check out this site - it has the pin outs for the 4 and 6 pin connectors - pins 1 and 2 are power and ground. IIRC, the shield is also tied to ground.


http://www.fwdepot.com/wcable.html


You should be able to mod a cable and put a connector on the wires for pins 1 and 2 and hook up to an external supply. No reason it should not work.


Warren

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  • Connecting iSight to a Dell Laptop -- 'almost' there but still need help(sigh)
    2003-07-03 06:14:20  sbpetrack [View]

    The adapter from firewire 4-pin-no-power to firewire 6-pin-with-power just arrived in the mail. Looks beautiful. The power supply is ... 9v/1.1A . Not 12v as Warren said iSight needs. I hooked it up, and the PC recognized it as "Apple Computer_Inc. iSight", found no driver and so loaded a "Generic 1394 Desktop Video Camera".

    Unfortunately, when I use it with the Audio/Video Tuning wizard I get a completely white picture and if I put my hand in front of it I get a rather brownish-blackish useless set of horizontal lines. I'd be happy to post a picture here or send it to anyone interested.

    Is the problem likely to be that I really need 12v, or is there something worse going on?

    I can't think of anything to do but go and buy a 12v power supply. (Unless someone tells me that a different driver is needed)

    All help sorely appreciated.
    • Closer still, but not yet there
      2003-07-03 19:53:00  anonymous2 [View]

      OK -- with a 9v power supply the picture was basically white. I just plugged in a 12v / 1.5A power supply from Radio Shack and the picture is now very discernible, but the color is terrible and the horizontal synch seems off. The top band of 70 pixels or so of the picture appear in a band at the bottom of the frame. FWIW, the picture is much worse in the "Audio Tuning Wizard" of Windows Messenger than in the generic 1394 applet in the control panel.

      It's a pity I can't post a small bitmap to this board.

      Could anyone tell me what the specs of the power supply of the iPod power supply are? thanks!

      Scott
      • Re: Connecting iSight to a PC
        2003-07-03 20:52:25  anonymous2 [View]

        Hmmm. I found a different generic driver at http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~iwan/1394/

        Using this driver, I got MUCH better control and eventually a picture that I could recognize!! And in fact this worked even when i switched back to the 9v/1.1A power adapter. However:

        1) there is still a problem with the horizontal sycn -- the top band of the picture appears in the bottom band of the window

        2) there is very visible jitter and flicker in the picture.

        3) Windows Messenger no longer recognizes that there is a camera attached to the PC.

        -- just trying to help
        • Re: Connecting iSight to a PC
          2003-12-05 07:24:46  anonymous2 [View]

          You MUST USE a 6-6 cable, not a 4-6 (usually, the notebooks have a 4pin connector, which is smaller than the 6pin connector). The two extra pins are the power line. The iSight is powered by the firewire cable, and that's why it doesn't work with a 4pin connector.
        • Re: Connecting iSight to a PC
          2003-07-28 18:08:23  anonymous2 [View]

          Hi. I just found this website doing a search.....
          I just bought an iBook with an iSight webcam.
          I'm told only I won't be able to use it to communicate with a friend who has a (new) Hewlett Packard (Pavilion, I think).
          Do you know if there's anything on the horizon....some product that my friend could buy in the near future that might make our communications compatible??
          As you probably can tell, I'm not particularly computer-savvy. Please keep that in mind if you are kind enough to respond to my letter.
          Thank you.
          • Re: Connecting iSight to a PC
            2004-01-22 21:58:30  theross_s9 [View]

            The closest thing I've found is that by using Yahoo! Messenger you can video chat, but without audio. That's all I know, and I'm in the same boat as you as far as computer savvyness.
          • Re: Connecting iSight to a PC
            2004-01-22 21:58:01  theross_s9 [View]

            The closest thing I've found is that by using Yahoo! Messenger you can video chat, but without audio. That's all I know, and I'm in the same boat as you as far as computer savvyness.
            • Re: Connecting iSight to a PC
              2004-03-14 16:55:14  rburns [View]

              Try ophoneX from http://xmeeting.sf.net Says it will interwork with NetMEeting though I haven't had a chance to try it yet. There are also a couple of cross platform pay systems.
        • Re: Connecting iSight to a PC
          2003-07-25 14:03:20  anonymous2 [View]

          Anyone tried the isight with a pci firewire card and a 6pin-6pin connector, rather than the 4-6 connector?

          I have a PCI Adaptec DuoConnect usb2/firewire card. The website states it'll give each FireWire port supply up to 18W of power (12VDC at 1.5A).

          http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/techspecs.html?sess=no&language=English+US&prodkey=AUA-3020&cat=%2fProduct%2fAUA-3020&fromarea=prod

          Anyone think that'll work. I'd love to hear before I really make a decision about buying one.

          I've already got an apple cinema display for my pc, so why not continue to add more apple devices!?
        • Could the problem be a faulty ground?
          2003-07-05 21:07:00  anonymous2 [View]

          A random friend told me that the horiztonal synch problem could be caused by a faulty ground.

          The power supply has only two plugs, not three.
          Could this be the cause of the flicker and/or the boriztonal bar of the top of the picture appearing in the bottom?

          I don't know enough about the pins of a two-prong outlet for power. Warren, do you think I should making certain that some extra lines are grounded by hand?

          Scott
          • Could the problem be a faulty ground?
            2004-01-02 19:10:27  anonymous2 [View]

            I have no idea about how well an iSight will perform on a PC, but the top line appearing on the bottom very well could be ground related - though it could be driver related as well. In a power connection with three leads like you see in AC power outlets, everyone knows that the two mains are alternating 120V 60Hz, and the third is a ground. In two-leads household outlets, they were polarized, rather than having a ground. Firewire doesn't resemble either of these, namely because it is DC, not AC. In DC, you have a positive and a negative. Electricity flows from the negative to the positive. However, voltage irregularities, or RFI and EMI interfernce can pollute the electrical signature enough to affect an image - but I'd say drivers were to blame if the problem was a smooth straight consistent line from the top appearing on the bottom. Otherwise, it would not follow a precise regular pattern of distortion like that.
          • Could the problem be a faulty ground?
            2004-01-02 19:10:16  anonymous2 [View]

            I have no idea about how well an iSight will perform on a PC, but the top line appearing on the bottom very well could be ground related - though it could be driver related as well. In a power connection with three leads like you see in AC power outlets, everyone knows that the two mains are alternating 120V 60Hz, and the third is a ground. In two-leads household outlets, they were polarized, rather than having a ground. Firewire doesn't resemble either of these, namely because it is DC, not AC. In DC, you have a positive and a negative. Electricity flows from the negative to the positive. However, voltage irregularities, or RFI and EMI interfernce can pollute the electrical signature enough to affect an image - but I'd say drivers were to blame if the problem was a smooth straight consistent line from the top appearing on the bottom. Otherwise, it would not follow a precise regular pattern of distortion like that.
            • Could the problem be a faulty ground?
              2004-12-07 16:03:25  GerryJMcF [View]

              I got my iSight working (no mic of course) using an adaptec AFW-1430 firewire adapter and a Radio Shack 12V 1500mA power supply. I also used
              IC Capture from www.imagingcontrol.com to adjust the settings. Cancel out of the new hardware wizard and the iSight will show as a generic 1394 canera in my computer. (This was discussed earlier here on this site) Cost? About $65 (plus iSight of course) Result? A very very good picture!
            • Could the problem be a faulty ground?
              2004-12-07 16:03:01  GerryJMcF [View]

              I got my iSight working (no mic of course) using an adaptec AFW-1430 firewire adapter and a Radio Shack 12V 1500mA power supply. I also used
              IC Capture from www.imagingcontrol.com to adjust the settings. Cancel out of the new hardware wizard and the iSight will show as a generic 1394 canera in my computer. (This was discussed earlier here on this site) Cost? About $65 (plus iSight of course) Result? A very very good picture!

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