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  Piracy is Progressive Taxation, and Other Thoughts on the Evolution of Online Distribution
Subject:   Why "flat" display of comments is necessary
Date:   2003-06-03 23:20:28
From:   anonymous2
Strange that you at O'Reily don't understand it with all the IT expertise...

It takes 5 seconds and 35Kb of traffic just to download one comment. There are nearly 150 comments on this article. To look through all of them would take me 12.5 minutes just for loading. The total traffic would be more than 5Mb. At the same time, average comment is just about 500 bytes (100 words). It would probably take from 10 to 20 minutes to look through all of them and total text content is only 75Kb.

So the reader has to spend nearly half of the time waiting for the page to finish downloading and has to download 5Mb of unnecessary HTML code for only 1% of valuable content.

Amazing how you can get so many things right and still get as many of them wrong.

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  • Why "flat" display of comments is necessary
    2003-09-11 21:18:53  anonymous2 [View]

    What on earth are you talking about? This page took seconds to download. Even if it does take 20 minutes to download you can always go do something else whilst you are waiting, then no time is wasted.
  • Why "flat" display of comments is necessary
    2003-06-11 02:05:05  anonymous2 [View]

    It sounds like you spent more time doing all those nerdy calculations then actually digesting the article. :)

    Why don't you just hit the stop button and then hit the "Topics" or "Main Titles" links. Or better yet, get a broadband Internet connection and stop asking everyone to dumb down their content for your crappy dialup.

    In any case, isn't complaining to Tim O'Reily about the web site's message board software kind of like complaining to Stephen King that you don't like the paper they used to publish his last book? Are you picturing Tim sitting behind the computer coding his own web site??? Why don't you find a feedback link or send e-mail to webmaster@oreillynet.com. Then at least your complaint might get read by someone who can do something about it.
    • Why "flat" display of comments is necessary
      2003-10-15 18:28:19  anonymous2 [View]

      Why is it unreasonable to ask a website owner to make thier pages "dial-up friendly"? Is it any worse than a blind person asking for it to be text-to-speech reader compatible?

      One of the main arguments about file sharing and web publishing is that you want to make the content available to as many people as possible. And that includes people who don't have broadband access (whether it is due to economic, social or geographical reasons) and people who may be sharing a high speed link with hundreds or even thousands of other people.