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  Aspect-Oriented Programming and JBoss
Subject:   Answering your well-founded skeptism
Date:   2003-05-31 09:39:38
From:   anonymous2
Response to: Answering your well-founded skeptism

Ok, thanks for the conversation. I've learned a lot and you have been very tolerant of my interrogation style.
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  • Answering your well-founded skeptism
    2003-06-02 04:58:15  anonymous2 [View]

    Certainly, he has been very tolerant with you!
    • Answering your well-founded skeptism
      2003-06-03 02:56:56  anonymous2 [View]

      I loved the article. First time I've understood what AOP is about (not that I have tried that hard).

      At project start up the issues are always:
      How do we do error handling
      How do we do logging
      How do we do internationalization
      How do we persist data
      How do we ensure it runs, and bounces back if it dies.

      AOP can answer quite a few of these. However, the next concern is:
      How do we make sure it works quickly and robustly.

      And here I side with the red flag - I can't see the code, and I worry like hell that it will create far more trouble for me than doing it myself with simply high level language constructs that I know work.

      So what if its a little extra typing, typing is easy.

      Jonathan
      • Answering your well-founded skeptism
        2003-06-03 09:00:25  anonymous2 [View]

        Here's a link to another interesting article on AOP, actually EAOP, that doesn't use logging as an example:

        http://www.emn.fr/x-info/sudholt/papers/tr-11-2002.pdf

  • Answering your well-founded skeptism
    2003-07-02 02:17:35  anonymous2 [View]

    This is the best thread on AOP I've read so far.
    Thank you, both.

    -jjr
    • Answering your well-founded skeptism
      2003-08-04 14:45:03  anonymous2 [View]

      I ended up with this thread not after reading the article but when I started evaluating AspectJ Vs JBoss AOP.

      I found this discussion thread very useful, it had a lot to read. I have a feeling that over the period of time JBoss AOP framework will improve in every respect. Well, I think I should get started with JBoss AOP leaving AspectJ aside.

      I am still skeptical about the ClassLoader issue, what is roadmap for JBoss AOP framework, will the class loader dependency be removed in future. How easy it would be to migrate JBoss AOP enabled Applications to other J2EE App Servers like Weblogic, WebSphere...

      I would love to see Eclipse integration, if it is already available where can I find it.

      Pardon me, if my question looks stupid.

      -Yogesh Prajapati