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  What I Hate About Your Programming Language
Subject:   C, C++, Java, maybe others - zeroth element arrays
Date:   2003-05-14 09:55:38
From:   anonymous2
Response to: C, C++, Java, maybe others - zeroth element arrays

The "Why waste a perfectly good digit?" bit was tongue-in-cheek.


But I've been programming so long I really can't imagine not using zero. It's second nature to me now.

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  • C, C++, Java, maybe others - zeroth element arrays
    2003-05-14 10:54:13  anonymous2 [View]

    why arrays indexed from zero? cos everybody is used to them. maybe if we all started indexing arrays from 1 back in the day it'd seem sensible, but it has become convention. i'd find it weird if i moved to a new language and found the arrays indexed from 1, it'd spongle all my for-loop logic & annoy me every time i forgot it.
    • C, C++, Java, maybe others - zeroth element arrays
      2003-05-14 14:39:09  anonymous2 [View]

      Naah, you don't really want me to reply with a list of languages that do suport arrays starting 'at one' do you:)
      Don't be worried if you ever encounter one though, those languages do not support for-loop logic either.
      You'll indeed need an all new logic:
      the first is in position one,
      the second is in position two,
      ...
      the Nth is in position N.

      Hey, I really do like C, but not really for business processing.
      • C, C++, Java, maybe others - zeroth element arrays
        2003-07-06 00:49:55  anonymous2 [View]

        FORTRAN and MATLAB both index from 1.

        I migrated from MATLAB to Numerical Python, just to get back to the sweet, nourishing 0 indexing.
    • There's a zeroth element?
      2003-05-14 13:08:17  anonymous2 [View]

      Maybe I'm backwards, but I rarely use the zeroth element. I do know that C and its pointer arithmetic is why there is a zeroth element. But unless the problem absolutely requires it, I just ignore it like a bit of grissle on my steak.