Reading and Writing Excel Files with POI
Subject:   Supporting projects like this is bad for opensource
Date:   2003-04-21 11:45:52
From:   anonymous2
I'm sick of these projects which propegate proprietary file formats. Reject these formats and guide folks to open file formats. Who needs excel!?? No one. OpenOffice's Calc program is just fine! And the file format and the source is open!
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  • Supporting projects like this is bad for opensource
    2003-05-02 03:50:33  buzzcutbuddha [View]

    Who needs Excel? You're right. No one needs Excel, much less OpenOffice, or computers, or so one. Excel is a tool, one that many people and businesses ALREADY own. If a large company that is my bread and butter owns Excel, and they need something that talks to Excel, guess what, I'm going to work with Excel. I'm not going to be an effete snob, sniff, and tell them that I only support OpenOffice.

    If a company, like Microsoft, wants to release a closed format that is their perogative, and their right, and I make the choice to whether or not to support it. You make the choice not to support it. That's how freedom works, that's how capitalism works. Go home, and stop telling us all what to do.
  • Supporting projects like this is bad for opensource
    2003-04-24 01:57:01  anonymous2 [View]

    Why would it be bad?
    Do you really think that the entire world will convert to your pet open source application because you have an aversion to commercial software packages.

    Effectively it's your attitude that's hurting open source far more than any support for interaction with non-open applications ever will.
    Without POI (or similar projects) people who want their applications to interact with MS Office will be forced to use commercial APIs which will prevent them from releasing their application into open source themselves (if they have that inclination).

    As a programmer you cannot choose (usually) the platforms to be supported. Your customer or employer has a software platform and that's the one you're going to have to write for.
    You might be able to bully the local butchershop into switching to OpenOffice for its 2 workstations, but I doubt that attitude will get you anywhere (except kicked out of the building) with a multinational.

    Like it or not, MS Office is the de-facto standard to which all office applications are measured and which all have to support.
    Maybe if OpenOffice were really as great as you consider it, it might be able to change that but to do so it will have to support reading AND writing MS Office files because the customers and other contacts of the people and companies you need to get to use OpenOffice will still be using that (plus the users will have a considerable existing document base all in MS Office format that they will require to be able to read and edit in whatever new office platform they may choose).
    And don't forget to make certain the retraining of users from MS Office is minimal. No more than a few hours to get started or a few days at most to get anyone to the same level of expertise (s)he has now in MS Office or no large corporation will accept it for the simple reason that the transition will be far too expensive for them (even with the license costs of MS Office).

    So yes, there is definitely a need to read and write Office documents from open source software.
  • Supporting projects like this is bad for opensource
    2003-04-23 16:56:21  anonymous2 [View]

    I'm sorry, but this is a ridiculous stance. The POI folks are creating a valuable tool for anyone who needs to read and write these file formats. Even the open-source world has plenty of reasons for interoperability with Microsoft file formats.

    What is bad for open-source are folks who believe that there's only one valuable way to contribute.