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Book:   Beyond Java
Subject:   Some injustice with java & Retoric with M$
Date:   2005-12-05 23:20:24
From:   mi1400
Rating:  StarStarStarStarStar

Though this book has showed quite good concerning points about Java but it failed to make Ruby buy me. I also found some perhaps intentional concealigs during the marketing of Ruby.


1. You will not find a single occurance of word "Java Web-Start". And Java-Applet technology is the target of punishment. You will also not find mensioning NetBeans-IDE which has way simplified things and has stopped people from go straty adopting Eclipse religion derived from it parent-religion Java. Java failed because of VB-6 type IDE should i say NetBeans-4 has not born when it should get born.


2. Contradicting his own notion that a language must do everything is falsified by his ownself by admitting Ruby is not OOP and shortcomings in every field.


3. C#.... justice was not done with it. Knowing that now system drivers are being written in C#. I remeber old days when i used to read that java is made safe. I always used to say M$ doesnt make anything safe why SUN is doing that and why i used to say in 2002 happened true by SUN saying with the realease of 1.5 said this version is more low-level than J2SE was intented. C# has done just that and won. People and this book wrongly in full totality, say that C# is clone/copy of Java. Being an OOP lanngauage doesnt automatically means that. Also i must say .Net still had Procedures and Sub-Routines architecture.


So with Java sun did was taking a LION (C/C++) broke all of it s teeth and clipped its nails in pows and the thing left was named Java.


C# its like M$ took the LION (C/C++) and has educated people and platforms (OS) how not to get bitten by it and yet take full pleasure of pleaying with it.


I believe Java and C# will compete neck to neck if NetBeans-4 type things are not evolutionised but revolutionised priodically. JBuilder and VisualCafe(late) , VisualAge(late) killed Java.


Have much to say and write but these are my imidiate thoughts.



Regards


Muhaamad Imran.
Islamabad, Pakistan.

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  • Some injustice with java & Retoric with M$,  January 19 2007
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    Submitted by Anonymous Reader   [Respond | View]

    "perhaps intentional concealigs during the marketing of Ruby."

    This book is not about marketing Ruby. It's an essay whose goal is to forcast the key issues for application development over the next 10 years and correlate them with the current programming lanaguage landscape.

    The author's conclusion, that of all the tools he examines, Ruby is the better fit, is carefully grounded in the discussion. The conclusion is one you, the reader, are free to dissagree with, but along the way you will learn something about the current state of Java, C#, Smalltalk, Python, Perl and Lisp. I knew nothing of Django and Seaside before I read the sections on Smalltalk and Python.

    I find it unfair to this excellent and readable essay to brand it "Ruby marketing".