Article:		Steve Jobs and the History of Cocoa, Part Two
Subject:		Did Apple learn anything from its past mistakes?
Date:		2002-05-21 15:55:14
From:		spiderbytes
Can we puchase OS X at a reasonable price ($200), and install it on the same hardware which we use for Win 2000 or XP? Back in the 80s I give up waiting for the price of Macs to become reasonable, retired my II+ and switched to MSDOS. When I give up waiting for Microsoft to fix DOS I switched to Linux. In 97 I discoved that Win 95 was the 32-bit fix for DOS that I was waiting for. Since Linux still dosn't have anything to compete with where Visual Studio and COM was in 97, I have been using Windows ever since. Now I have been using Visual Studio .NET and C# since Beta 1 in Dec 2000. I am still waiting for Apple, IBM, & Sun to learn from their past mistakes and start providing some real competition for Microsoft. Putting Unix on top of Mac OS seems backwards to me. I would think that the right way to do it would be to put Mac OS on top of the Mach kernel, along with Unix. Once .NET is available on Linux, there will be no reason to use Mac OS X. Bill

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• Did Apple learn anything from its past mistakes?
  2003-09-05 09:34:23  anonymous2 [View]
  
  
  "Real Competition for Microsoft" Ha! Microsoft OSes are the butt end of the computing world. Everything on a Windows platform requires more than twice the work accompanied by a lot of frustration. It's a very unorganized, easy to screw everything up platform.
  
  Development time on the Nextstep and again in OS X using Cocoa is simply a much better, more organization, well thought out & PROVEN solution.
  
  The application stemming from Nextstep resulted in amazing technology for the time and they were doing it in months not years.
  
  All Microsoft does is copy every other technology out there, screws it up and then charges for it. Look what they did with Java from Sun and Javascript from Netscape.
  
  Dude, the real competition has been out there for a long time where have you been? Mac OS X has an amazing OS with fantastic technology. Compare creating movies, pictures or even programming on OS X with linux or sun or Microsoft. I think you'll come to a shocking realization you have been in the closet for some time......

• Did Apple learn anything from its past mistakes?
  2002-12-28 14:22:12  tooki [View]
  
  
  "Putting Unix on top of Mac OS seems backwards to me. I would think that the right way to do it would be to put Mac OS on top of the Mach kernel, along with Unix."
  
  Of course it seems backwards to put UNIX on top of Mac OS. That's why Apple didn't do that. OS X is a real UNIX on the Mach kernel, with a Mac-like GUI stuck on top. If you choose to run Classic (Mac OS 9 running in a virtual machine), which is something many people choose not to do, then it is running on top of Mach, not vice-versa.
  
  tooki