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Weblog:   When is Apple going to open up?
Subject:   Preposterous Nonsense
Date:   2005-10-05 06:58:04
From:   decoder
The good thing about this article is that it prompted a response that showed the community around here is capable of intelligently rejecting/correcting the editorial equivalent of an encomium for the Easter Bunny. The fact that someone like Giles could so easily be appeased by a few empty gestures is sad, but also, it makes me wonder what's next from this outlet. Perhaps O'Reilly should hire some of their readers as editors to prevent further embarassment.
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  • Giles Turnbull photo Preposterous Nonsense
    2005-10-05 07:52:17  Giles Turnbull | O'Reilly AuthorO'Reilly Blogger [Reply | View]

    Your heartfelt flame doesn't clearly say what you consider to be nonsense, so it's hard for me to defend myself.

    I'm not 'appeased'; it's not like I'm rushing out to buy a Dell machine based solely on the posts I've read on a few weblogs.

    My point was intended to be about communication, and the willingness (or otherwise) of large corporations to communicate openly with customers and users.

    I simply don't accept the argument (made elsewhere in the comments here) that MS's apparent openness is a result of it being so behind the competition, *and that by logical consequence*, Apple has no need to open up at all. It just doesn't follow. Why can't a market leader allow just a little insight into its internal activities? Being market-leading web services hasn't stopped Google and Yahoo opening up with official and not-so-official communications channels.

    From my point of view, the good thing about this article was the fantastic response it triggered from readers, almost all of whom had a valid criticism or useful additional insight to add.
    • Preposterous Nonsense
      2005-10-05 18:51:51  decoder [Reply | View]

      The ellipticism of your response is great: you end with my initial conclusion, which, btw, answers your other question: I didn't enumerate the preposterous aspects because that has duly been done.

      You also don't answer the claim that you are falling for a Microsoft ruse by refuting a straw man argument. The insane irony is that Mickey has been doing this same nonsense forever, and your not even acknowledging that is ludicrous. You mentioned Office. Remember when they first promised to 'open up' and make all the apps use XML? Go ask Tim Bray about that. The promise... the reality...

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