Article:		Memory Management in Objective-C
Subject:		Where is the folklore
Date:		2001-08-02 14:21:24
From:		psheldon
Response to: Where is the folklore
Thank you. I am very curious about these candidates, especially omnigroup's. They were involved in os x translations of the game quake and have uncommented game frameworks. I really like the newsgroup thread structure so that I would not appear intrusive and also could choose what to read . Do these have thread structure ? From superficially looking at them being e mail addresses I write to, I am sorry that cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com and macosx-dev@omnigroup.com don't seem to have this thread structure. Perhaps, however, I write these e mail addresses to join the list ? Yet I might like to see that the lists supply a thread structure. Do e mails there work like yahoo e groups and appear on a web page like this forum with threads. Do they put my on some sort of local-computer group list for my news reader (newswatcher, incidentally). Looking at my isp's group list, I searched objective and found objective c. comp.lang.objective-c This was the only newswatcher group I found that seemed relevant.

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• cocoa-dev with browser-nomail option
  2001-08-02 21:24:14  psheldon [View]
  
  
  In the FAQ about the list that the e mail address, cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com, writes to, Apple indicates you can have a nomail option.
  http://www.lists.apple.com/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?id=46
  Apple's list further offers other less intrusive mail options such as receive digest once a day rather than individual mails.
  FAQ also indicated people actually didn't want to use newsservers :
  http://www.lists.apple.com/cgi-bin/mwf/topic_show.pl?id=47
  
  Apple writes :
  http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-dev
  "The archives are not currently searchable. We're working on adding a search engine to the archives, but don't yet have a date that it'll be functional. "
  so the list only has "human memory" now.
  
  I am ever curious about Apple's knowledge navigation improvements.

• Where is the folklore
  2001-08-02 20:46:40  canyonrat [View]
  
  
  I should have given the web address of those lists. Cocoa-dev is at:
  http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-dev
  macosx-dev is at:
  http://www.omnigroup.com/community/developer/mailinglists/macosx-dev/
  
  Threading is really done in the reader and it's easier to thread a news group than a mailing lit so many mailers don't thread. I tend to use Entourage because it threads both news groups and mailing lists.
  
  If you don't have a threading mail program, both of the above lists let you read threads on the web.
  
  comp.lang.objective-c has some good discussions but it's more oriented to people porting and extending the ObjC language and not just to Mac programmers.
• thanks, checked omnigroup (nomail?)
  2001-08-02 21:40:48  psheldon [View]
  
  
  Interesting that you can have a threading mail program, but more interesting is that the list can observe threads in archives through a browser.
  Since I couldn't find the FAQ, I want to ask confirmation does omnigroup have a nomail option as well?
• thanks, checked omnigroup (nomail?)
  2001-08-03 07:29:38  canyonrat [View]
  
  
  I think you can do this by subscribing and then turning on the "nomail" option. That may disable your ability to send to the list, though.