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  Why O'Reilly and .NET?
Subject:   Sunshine Soldiers
Date:   2001-06-06 07:04:29
From:   mpnugent
I'm disappointed, but not with O'Reilly.


I hate M$ more than any person I know, and I hate their practices even more than I hate their crippled software. After 3 years of M$-- before which I ran GEM and CP/M-- I banned Gates from my home in Apr 1992. I purchased Coherent, then discovered Yggdrasil. Years later, I divorced a girlfriend because she believed I should permit an M$ laptop into my home.


Having described myself, I will direct my disappointment at most of the responses to O'Reilly's .NET statement.


O'Reilly has dedicated a great deal to the Open Source movement. They have advanced the movement more than most of us. I admit that O'Reilly is a corporation, and I confess general trepidation towards corporations and their far-reaching agendas, but O'Reilly's rationale seems justifiable. Isn't Open Source about sharing ideas? Making use of what we know?


Knowledge is power, and O'Reilly empowers us. I don't suggest we follow any entity blindly, even Raymond, RMS, or Torvalds, but we should take what they're offering and use it to advance the movement.


Simply being on a bandwagon does not imply we're helping that wagon move. O'Reilly helps it move.

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  • Sunshine Soldiers
    2001-06-06 12:38:16  avengingangel [Reply | View]

    This is one thing that I find very compelling and curious in the anti-gates world. How many of you who flame and flame at the thought of gates still own an M$ peripheral or dual boot with window$ so you can play Diablo2? I'll admit it. I own a copy of 98 and a copy of 2000pro. 98 is horrible but not nearly the memory and processor hog that 2000 is, while 2000 runs relatively well, aside from thrashing like hell.
    The main reason that I've left the M$ bridge intact behind me is because my wife refuses to learn how cool (and insanely powerful) alternative OSes can be. Myself, I'm increasing my learning curve so I can host a local website and small lan effectively. In doing so I'm having trouble finding replacements for all my M$ crud but I'm trying very hard to do so in order to be consistent in my M$ bashing to my friends. To put a point behind my ramblings, I was wondering how many of you are diehard anti-M$ers yet still, albeit begrudgingly, dual boot a PC with some ver of win? Since this seems to be the point of these flames, do any of you have any honest and well thought out criticisms of O'Reilly's decision to report on .NET...in other words, do any more of you have direct responses to the article above? Remember, I'm asking for well-formulated responses and not mere juvenile anti-M$ flaming, if you have a brain, display it. If not, butt out.
    • Sunshine Soldiers
      2001-06-06 14:42:57  juantay [Reply | View]

      C# and .NET are just a copy of Java and the Java Platform made proprietary so that Microsoft can make alot of money off of other companies.

      O'Reilly IS serious when it says that they are catering to .NET. Which means they have Sold Out.

      The Microsoft Empire will disappear in the natural course of the Internet's future.

      What more is there to understand?


      Juantay
      • Sunshine Soldiers
        2001-07-18 09:42:02  jeffds [Reply | View]

        Can you honestly say C# and .NET are just copies of Java and the Java Platform? Have you loaded the .NET beta? Have you written any C# code (and I don't mean Hello World apps)? Do you have any interest in a meaningful contribution to this thread? I doubt it.