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Article:
  A Look at the Eclipse IDE
Subject:   They're all junk
Date:   2003-11-21 10:53:33
From:   altjeringa
I miss JBuilder so so much!!!! Netbeans is unstable, slow and has such a poor user interface it's nausiating. Eclipse runs quickly but as stated in the article it's Web App Dev is really weak. Xcode's J2EE support is definately an afterthought, well maybe an after-afterthought. So for now I'm using Xcode to edit individual classes, Dreamweaver to handle my JSP's and ant by hand to run my builds and deployment. When JBuilder X is released I'll drop the $1000 but I'm dreading the 3/4 cost upgrade prices.


Is there nothing on OS X that a JAVA developer can be proud of? My lord even PHP development on OS X has outpaced JAVA, http://www.zend.com. So much for the repeated pronouncements at WWDC that Java is a First Class Citizen on OSX. ( no they weren't just talking about the JSDK and JRE)

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  • They're all junk
    2003-11-22 20:11:34  anonymous2 [Reply | View]

    Oh for god's sake . . . the Java dev tools for OS X are quite lacking. ;alskdjflasjd;flkjsdf

    It is so annoying. I have tried out every major IDE. IntelliJ seems to be the best. It's got all the features of Eclipse but they work on OS X. Eclipse doesn't even have anti-aliased font in the editor! SWT does not seem any faster than Swing on OS X. On previous releases, M4 and earlier, eclipse was noticeably slower than Netbeans!!! Huh?! Xcode is practically non-existant when it comes to Java development. I mean, Code Sense is not even implemented for Java. LOL. JBuilder X doesn't even run on OS X. I just tried to download the 30-day trial and there is no download for OS X (just for Windows, Linux, Solaris). Nice is all I have to say. Netbeans is ok. Yeah it does crash quite bit. I love how the find dialog box always loses focus and when you start typing a find keyword you remember you are typing in the editor again!

    Why hasn't Sun released a nice Java IDE to for their legions of dedicated developers???! Look at MS with their Visual Studio tools. Man. And could we get a Sun revamped Look & Feel that doesn't look like a joke?

    The Java IDE situation is looking really grim on OS X.
    • They're all junk
      2004-06-17 22:13:37  BillW [Reply | View]

      I got JBuilder X running on OS X, 10.3, with no problems at all. I like JBuilder for one simple reason: I'M USED TO IT!!!

      I also found Eclipse to be far too slow to develop anything with, but then again the last time I used it was about a year ago, so maybe things have gotten better.
  • They're all junk
    2003-11-22 20:09:28  anonymous2 [Reply | View]

    Oh for god's sake . . . the Java dev tools for OS X are quite lacking. ;alskdjflasjd;flkjsdf

    It is so annoying. I have tried out every major IDE. IntelliJ seems to be the best. It's got all the features of Eclipse but they work on OS X. Eclipse doesn't even have anti-aliased font in the editor! SWT does not seem any faster than Swing on OS X. On previous releases, M4 and earlier, eclipse was noticeably slower than Netbeans!!! Huh?! Xcode is practically non-existant when it comes to Java development. I mean, Code Sense is not even implemented for Java. LOL. JBuilder X doesn't even run on OS X. I just tried to download the 30-day trial and there is no download for OS X (just for Windows, Linux, Solaris). Nice is all I have to say. Netbeans is ok. Yeah it does crash quite bit. I love how the find dialog box always loses focus and when you start typing a find keyword you remember you are typing in the editor again!

    Why hasn't Sun released a nice Java IDE to for their legions of dedicated developers???! Look at MS with their Visual Studio tools. Man. And could we get a Sun revamped Look & Feel that doesn't look like a joke?

    The Java IDE situation is looking really grim on OS X.